[bksvol-discuss] Re: indices et al
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 02:02:36 -0700 (PDT)
I haven't deleted them but have left them as they are.
The ones I've seen have been figure-outable, in my
opinion, even though not orderly. And as I said, I put
int he long synopsis that if a reader really needs
them cleaned up and made more legible let me know, and
I put my name and e-mail address. Ditto with
bibliographies and footnotes that are at the end of
the book.
Cindy
--- Carrie Karnos <ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> No one is saying that footnotes or indices or
> anything else should be eliminated arbitrarily.
> Only if they are a complete mess, taking many hours
> to fix, should they be deleted. Of the thousands of
> books I've validated, I think I've deleted indices
> in maybe 3 books, all of which I discussed with the
> Bookshare staff before deciding to delete. I
> remember one book where I figured it would take me
> 20 hours to fix up the index. Anyone volunteering
> to fix the index? I still have the original rtf
> file of the book.
>
> Carrie
>
> Amy Goldring Tajalli
> <agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The English teacher in me wants to scream at the
> idea of arbitrarily
> eliminating footnotes or indices. They are usually
> there for a reason and
> i cannot imagine eliminating them unless they are
> totally illegible or
> gratuitous. Most footnotes are there to aide the
> reader or, at the very
> least, to give the reader the source for something
> quoted or referenced in
> the text. Even the "novel" I am currently validating
> would be confusing and
> incomprehensible at times without the notes.
>
> Amy (OMST)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "E."
> To:
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:41 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: indices et al
>
>
> > You included those notes within the submitted book
> itself?
> >
> >
> > At 08:36 PM 8/7/2006, you wrote:
> >
> >>The books I've validated that have had indices and
> >>footnotes at the back, I've just left. Usually
> they're
> >>readable, even if not in vertical lines. I have
> >>included notes that if they're a problem for any
> >>reader and that person wants me to fix them for me
> to
> >>contact me and I will fix them, but so far no one
> has.
> >>I wonder if anyone has even read any of those
> books.
> >>smile
> >>
> >>Cindy
> >>
> >>--- Evan Reese wrote:
> >>
> >> > Sorry, but to me, that is way too much
> omission.
> >> > Table of contents? Not
> >> > putting that in is inconceivable to me. I can
> >> > understand the index being
> >> > left out, although the last two books I scanned
> had
> >> > indexes, and I took the
> >> > trouble to fix the first one up, and I will
> soon be
> >> > fixing up the other, but
> >> > contents, foreword, preface, etc. may not be
> >> > technically core content, but
> >> > they aren't even usually that long.
> >> >
> >> > I want to try to nip this kind of thinking in
> the
> >> > bud if I can, because the
> >> > last thing I want to see on Bookshare is books
> >> > turning up without contents,
> >> > and other preliminary material, but especially
> >> > without contents. I hope, as
> >> > already stated with the possible exception of
> the
> >> > index, that we aren't
> >> > going to start seeing stripped-down versions of
> >> > books here. I know that
> >> > this may take extra time for some people who
> want to
> >> > be conscientious and
> >> > turn in a quality addition to the collection.
> This
> >> > is especially true if a
> >> > book has a lot of endnotes or reference notes.
> A
> >> > recent book I scanned had
> >> > a couple hundred of them. That's one of the
> things
> >> > that sometimes
> >> > disappoints me about some books that NLS puts
> out.
> >> > When I hear something
> >> > like 'The forty pages of reference notes in the
> >> > print edition have been
> >> > omitted in this recording.', I feel cheated.
> Call
> >> > me a nerd if you want to,
> >> > but I actually read those things. That's a good
> >> > source of future reading
> >> > material for me, and I want to keep it in
> Bookshare
> >> > books.
> >> >
> >> > But the main impetus to writing this was the
> idea
> >> > put forth here that a
> >> > table of contents could be omitted because it
> is not
> >> > core content. I hope
> >> > Gustavo steps on this one hard.
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "E."
> >> > To:
> >> > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 4:15 AM
> >> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I think I know
> the
> >> > answer to this...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > You would let a book in if it were missing
> its
> >> > preface, introduction and
> >> > > endnotes but contained the text and the
> >> > appropriate title page copyright
> >> > > info? Interesting.
> >> > >
> >> > > E.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > At 11:39 PM 8/6/2006, you wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >>Hi Lea,
> >> > >>
> >> > >>This may be surprising, but since the end
> notes
> >> > and indices are not 'core
> >> > >>content', you can submit the book as is. I
> have
> >> > dropped appendices or
> >> > >>indices a few times, when they were
> hopelessly
> >> > muddled. I would suggest
> >> > >>writing a note to Gustavo in the comment
> section
> >> > when you upload the book
> >> > >>about the missing 30 pages, since he may
> overrule
> >> > me.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>This of course begs the question: what
> exactly is
> >> > the 'core content' of a
> >> > >>book? I believe it's the center core of the
> book,
> >> > not the table of
> >> > >>contents, the foreword, the introduction, the
> >> > afterword, glossary,
> >> > >>appendices, indices, etc, etc, etc. Bookshare
> >> > requires the title and
> >> > >>copyright pages and the core content, but I
> >> > believe that's all. As I said
> >> > >>though, Gustavo may have a different opinion,
> so
> >> > if you want to make
> >> > >>absolutely sure, you could write him, using
> the
> >> > email address in the To
> >> > >>section of this email.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>HTH, Carrie
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Pascha Lea
> wrote:
> >> > >>Hi,
> >> > >>
> >> > >>I've started validating a text book, and I've
> just
> >> > noticed that all of the
> >> > >>end-notes and indexes aren't scanned. I have
> the
> >> > hard-copy of the book, so
> >> > >>I know there about 30 pages of this stuff
> missing.
> >> > As I don't have access
> >> > >>to a scanner, my first reaction would be to
> reject
> >> > this as an incomplete
> >> > >>book. My question is - would not having the
> >> > end-notes and indexes make
> >> > >>this book 'incomplete'?
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Thanks,
> >> > >>Lea
> >> > >>
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