[bksvol-discuss] Re: indices et al

  • From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 19:31:17 -0700 (PDT)

Yes, in the long synopsis.

Cindy

--- "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> You included those notes within the submitted book
> itself?
> 
> 
> At 08:36 PM 8/7/2006, you wrote:
> 
> >The books I've validated that have had  indices and
> >footnotes at the back, I've just left. Usually
> they're
> >readable, even if not in vertical lines. I have
> >included notes that if they're a problem for any
> >reader and that person wants me to fix them for me
> to
> >contact me and I will fix them, but so far no one
> has.
> >I wonder if anyone has even read any of those
> books.
> >smile
> >
> >Cindy
> >
> >--- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry, but to me, that is way too much omission.
> > > Table of contents?  Not
> > > putting that in is inconceivable to me.  I can
> > > understand the index being
> > > left out, although the last two books I scanned
> had
> > > indexes, and I took the
> > > trouble to fix the first one up, and I will soon
> be
> > > fixing up the other, but
> > > contents, foreword, preface, etc. may not be
> > > technically core content, but
> > > they aren't even usually that long.
> > >
> > > I want to try to nip this kind of thinking in
> the
> > > bud if I can, because the
> > > last thing I want to see on Bookshare is books
> > > turning up without contents,
> > > and other preliminary material, but especially
> > > without contents.  I hope, as
> > > already stated with the possible exception of
> the
> > > index, that we aren't
> > > going to start seeing stripped-down versions of
> > > books here.  I know that
> > > this may take extra time for some people who
> want to
> > > be conscientious and
> > > turn in a quality addition to the collection. 
> This
> > > is especially true if a
> > > book has a lot of endnotes or reference notes. 
> A
> > > recent book I scanned had
> > > a couple hundred of them.  That's one of the
> things
> > > that sometimes
> > > disappoints me about some books that NLS puts
> out.
> > > When I hear something
> > > like 'The forty pages of reference notes in the
> > > print edition have been
> > > omitted in this recording.', I feel cheated. 
> Call
> > > me a nerd if you want to,
> > > but I actually read those things.  That's a good
> > > source of future reading
> > > material for me, and I want to keep it in
> Bookshare
> > > books.
> > >
> > > But the main impetus to writing this was the
> idea
> > > put forth here that a
> > > table of contents could be omitted because it is
> not
> > > core content.  I hope
> > > Gustavo steps on this one hard.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 4:15 AM
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I think I know the
> > > answer to this...
> > >
> > >
> > > > You would let a book in if it were missing its
> > > preface, introduction and
> > > > endnotes but contained the text and the
> > > appropriate title page copyright
> > > > info?  Interesting.
> > > >
> > > > E.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 11:39 PM 8/6/2006, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>Hi Lea,
> > > >>
> > > >>This may be surprising, but since the end
> notes
> > > and indices are not 'core
> > > >>content', you can submit the book as is.  I
> have
> > > dropped appendices or
> > > >>indices a few times, when they were hopelessly
> > > muddled.  I would suggest
> > > >>writing a note to Gustavo in the comment
> section
> > > when you upload the book
> > > >>about the missing 30 pages, since he may
> overrule
> > > me.
> > > >>
> > > >>This of course begs the question: what exactly
> is
> > > the 'core content' of a
> > > >>book?  I believe it's the center core of the
> book,
> > > not the table of
> > > >>contents, the foreword, the introduction, the
> > > afterword, glossary,
> > > >>appendices, indices, etc, etc, etc.  Bookshare
> > > requires the title and
> > > >>copyright pages and the core content, but I
> > > believe that's all.  As I said
> > > >>though, Gustavo may have a different opinion,
> so
> > > if you want to make
> > > >>absolutely sure, you could write him, using
> the
> > > email address in the To
> > > >>section of this email.
> > > >>
> > > >>HTH, Carrie
> > > >>
> > > >>Pascha Lea <pascha2u@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >>Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >>I've started validating a text book, and I've
> just
> > > noticed that all of the
> > > >>end-notes and indexes aren't scanned. I have
> the
> > > hard-copy of the book, so
> > > >>I know there about 30 pages of this stuff
> missing.
> > > As I don't have access
> > > >>to a scanner, my first reaction would be to
> reject
> > > this as an incomplete
> > > >>book. My question is - would not having the
> > > end-notes and indexes make
> > > >>this book 'incomplete'?
> > > >>
> > > >>Thanks,
> > > >>Lea
> > > >>
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