[bksvol-discuss] Re: baffling
- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:24:47 -0700
HI Debby,
I'm not positive about this, but changing the paper size is
applicable only to the document you're working on, I think, not every
document. You could always check before you needed to print though. Can
you tell that I don't print much?
Mayrie
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Debby Franson
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:37 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: baffling
Hi Mayrie!!
I welcome anyone who answers my questions.
Thanks for explaining the difference between hard and soft page breaks.
I have my paper size in Word set to letter and, so far, I don't think I have
come across any soft page breaks, because Window-Eyes announces "page break"
when I come across one.
If I changed the paper size, wouldn't that mess up how many pages I get when
I print out any document? I don't think I'll have to change anything.
Debby
At 12:18 AM 10/27/2009, Mayrie ReNae wrote
>HI Debby,
>
>I'm not Ann, but I can answer your questions, I think.
>
> A hard page break is an actual break between pages inserted by
>the OCR software. A soft page break is one inserted by Word if it
>thinks that there is too much text to print on a page with the settings
>currently assigned to the file. This is where paper size comes in.
>The larger Word thinks the paper that you're printing on is, the less
>likely that it is to insert soft and annoying page breaks. Those soft
>page breaks are only visible to Word, and only tell it where to stop
>the printer between pages when printing. They aren't in rtf documents
>submitted to bookshare either by the submitter or proofreader of a
>book. They just throw off page count for the proofreader if they exist
>in a book file. If you encounter them, they can usually be eliminated
>by increasing your paper size. When increasing paper size, I usually
>choose the largest paper size possible, custom in the page set up
>dialogue and 22 inches as the number of inches long. You really only
>need to mess with this if soft page breaks turn up in your document.
>Now, let me guess, you're wondering, how can you tell the difference
>when listening whether a page break is hard or soft? I use JAWS, and
>this may be different with Window Eyes. However, I'll tell you what I
>experience with my screen reader. If you arrow past a hard page break
>with your up and down arrows, Jaws announces "page break". If the page
>break is soft, my screen reader only says "page 22" or whatever number page
Word thinks you're on.
>
> Did I answer all of your questions? If not, please continue to
ask.
>
>
>Happy proofreading!
>
>Mayrie
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Debby Franson
>Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:49 PM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: baffling
>
>Hi Ann!
>
>Thanks for your welcome.
>
>Yes, Mayrie was helpful about the page numbering.
>
>What is the difference between a hard page break and a soft one?
>
>What is the best paper size to use in Word? I haven't changed it since
>I installed it this summer.
>
>Debby
>
>At 07:43 AM 10/26/2009, Ann Parsons wrote
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Debbie, nice to meet you. Good thing you have an optacon. That will
> >make your life easier. Most of us who are blind ask for sighted help
> >when doing books like yours for precisely those reasons you mentioned.
> >
> >I'm sure Mayrie will talk to you about page numbering, but what's
> >important is the hard page breaks, not the soft ones. If you think
> >you have more pages than are reported, increase the size of the paper
> >in Word and see if that helps.
> >
> >Ann P.
> >
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