[bksvol-discuss] Re: baffling

  • From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:36:57 -0500

Hi Mayrie!!

I welcome anyone who answers my questions.

Thanks for explaining the difference between hard and soft page breaks.

I have my paper size in Word set to letter and, so far, I don't think I have come across any soft page breaks, because Window-Eyes announces "page break" when I come across one.

If I changed the paper size, wouldn't that mess up how many pages I get when I print out any document? I don't think I'll have to change anything.

Debby

At 12:18 AM 10/27/2009, Mayrie ReNae wrote
HI Debby,

I'm not Ann, but I can answer your questions, I think.

        A hard page break is an actual break between pages inserted by the
OCR software.  A soft page break is one inserted by Word if it thinks that
there is too much text to print on a page with the settings currently
assigned to the file.  This is where paper size comes in.  The larger Word
thinks the paper that you're printing on is, the less likely that it is to
insert soft and annoying page breaks.  Those soft page breaks are only
visible to Word, and only tell it where to stop the printer between pages
when printing.  They aren't in rtf documents submitted to bookshare either
by the submitter or proofreader of a book.  They just throw off page count
for the proofreader if they exist in a book file.  If you encounter them,
they can usually be eliminated by increasing your paper size.  When
increasing paper size, I usually choose the largest paper size possible,
custom in the page set up dialogue and 22 inches as the number of inches
long.  You really only need to mess with this if soft page breaks turn up in
your document.  Now, let me guess, you're wondering, how can you tell the
difference when listening whether a page break is hard or soft?  I use JAWS,
and this may be different with Window Eyes.  However, I'll tell you what I
experience with my screen reader.  If you arrow past a hard page break with
your up and down arrows, Jaws announces "page break".  If the page break is
soft, my screen reader only says "page 22" or whatever number page Word
thinks you're on.

        Did I answer all of your questions?  If not, please continue to ask.


Happy proofreading!

Mayrie

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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: baffling

Hi Ann!

Thanks for your welcome.

Yes, Mayrie was helpful about the page numbering.

What is the difference between a hard page break and a soft one?

What is the best paper size to use in Word?  I haven't changed it since I
installed it this summer.

Debby

At 07:43 AM 10/26/2009, Ann Parsons wrote
>Hi all,
>
>Debbie, nice to meet you.  Good thing you have an optacon.  That will
>make your life easier.  Most of us who are blind ask for sighted help
>when doing books like yours for precisely those reasons you mentioned.
>
>I'm sure Mayrie will talk to you about page numbering, but what's
>important is the hard page breaks, not the soft ones.  If you think you
>have more pages than are reported, increase the size of the paper in
>Word and see if that helps.
>
>Ann P.
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