[bksvol-discuss] Re: baffling

  • From: "Lori Castner" <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:00:40 -0700

Mayrie, You are correct. Changing the page length affects only the document you are working on.


Lori C.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:24 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: baffling


HI Debby,

I'm not positive about this, but changing the paper size  is
applicable only to the document you're working on, I think, not every
document.  You could always check before you needed to print though.  Can
you tell that I don't print much?

Mayrie



-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Debby Franson
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:37 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: baffling

Hi Mayrie!!

I welcome anyone who answers my questions.

Thanks for explaining the difference between hard and soft page breaks.

I have my paper size in Word set to letter and, so far, I don't think I have come across any soft page breaks, because Window-Eyes announces "page break"
when I come across one.

If I changed the paper size, wouldn't that mess up how many pages I get when
I print out any document?  I don't think I'll have to change anything.

Debby

At 12:18 AM 10/27/2009, Mayrie ReNae wrote
HI Debby,

I'm not Ann, but I can answer your questions, I think.

        A hard page break is an actual break between pages inserted by
the OCR software.  A soft page break is one inserted by Word if it
thinks that there is too much text to print on a page with the settings
currently assigned to the file.  This is where paper size comes in.
The larger Word thinks the paper that you're printing on is, the less
likely that it is to insert soft and annoying page breaks.  Those soft
page breaks are only visible to Word, and only tell it where to stop
the printer between pages when printing.  They aren't in rtf documents
submitted to bookshare either by the submitter or proofreader of a
book.  They just throw off page count for the proofreader if they exist
in a book file.  If you encounter them, they can usually be eliminated
by increasing your paper size.  When increasing paper size, I usually
choose the largest paper size possible, custom in the page set up
dialogue and 22 inches as the number of inches long.  You really only
need to mess with this if soft page breaks turn up in your document.
Now, let me guess, you're wondering, how can you tell the difference
when listening whether a page break is hard or soft?  I use JAWS, and
this may be different with Window Eyes.  However, I'll tell you what I
experience with my screen reader.  If you arrow past a hard page break
with your up and down arrows, Jaws announces "page break".  If the page
break is soft, my screen reader only says "page 22" or whatever number page
Word thinks you're on.

        Did I answer all of your questions?  If not, please continue to
ask.


Happy proofreading!

Mayrie

-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Debby Franson
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:49 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: baffling

Hi Ann!

Thanks for your welcome.

Yes, Mayrie was helpful about the page numbering.

What is the difference between a hard page break and a soft one?

What is the best paper size to use in Word?  I haven't changed it since
I installed it this summer.

Debby

At 07:43 AM 10/26/2009, Ann Parsons wrote
>Hi all,
>
>Debbie, nice to meet you.  Good thing you have an optacon.  That will
>make your life easier.  Most of us who are blind ask for sighted help
>when doing books like yours for precisely those reasons you mentioned.
>
>I'm sure Mayrie will talk to you about page numbering, but what's
>important is the hard page breaks, not the soft ones.  If you think
>you have more pages than are reported, increase the size of the paper
>in Word and see if that helps.
>
>Ann P.
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