[bksvol-discuss] Re: baffling
- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:50:22 -0700
Hi Lori,
I want to thank you for mentioning Word Wise from National Braille Press.
You are so not going to believe this, but I own that book, and completely
forgot that I do! I could have been using it to help myself out, and will
for an issue I'm having right now today! I don't know how I could forget I
own that book! So thanks for jump starting my pathetic memory! You just
reminded me that I own a resource that I actually need!
Mayrie
-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lori Castner
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:01 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: baffling
Mayrie, You are correct. Changing the page length affects only the document
you are working on.
Lori C.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:24 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: baffling
> HI Debby,
>
> I'm not positive about this, but changing the paper size is
> applicable only to the document you're working on, I think, not every
> document. You could always check before you needed to print though. Can
> you tell that I don't print much?
>
> Mayrie
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Debby Franson
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 9:37 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: baffling
>
> Hi Mayrie!!
>
> I welcome anyone who answers my questions.
>
> Thanks for explaining the difference between hard and soft page breaks.
>
> I have my paper size in Word set to letter and, so far, I don't think I
> have
> come across any soft page breaks, because Window-Eyes announces "page
> break"
> when I come across one.
>
> If I changed the paper size, wouldn't that mess up how many pages I get
> when
> I print out any document? I don't think I'll have to change anything.
>
> Debby
>
> At 12:18 AM 10/27/2009, Mayrie ReNae wrote
>>HI Debby,
>>
>>I'm not Ann, but I can answer your questions, I think.
>>
>> A hard page break is an actual break between pages inserted by
>>the OCR software. A soft page break is one inserted by Word if it
>>thinks that there is too much text to print on a page with the settings
>>currently assigned to the file. This is where paper size comes in.
>>The larger Word thinks the paper that you're printing on is, the less
>>likely that it is to insert soft and annoying page breaks. Those soft
>>page breaks are only visible to Word, and only tell it where to stop
>>the printer between pages when printing. They aren't in rtf documents
>>submitted to bookshare either by the submitter or proofreader of a
>>book. They just throw off page count for the proofreader if they exist
>>in a book file. If you encounter them, they can usually be eliminated
>>by increasing your paper size. When increasing paper size, I usually
>>choose the largest paper size possible, custom in the page set up
>>dialogue and 22 inches as the number of inches long. You really only
>>need to mess with this if soft page breaks turn up in your document.
>>Now, let me guess, you're wondering, how can you tell the difference
>>when listening whether a page break is hard or soft? I use JAWS, and
>>this may be different with Window Eyes. However, I'll tell you what I
>>experience with my screen reader. If you arrow past a hard page break
>>with your up and down arrows, Jaws announces "page break". If the page
>>break is soft, my screen reader only says "page 22" or whatever number
>>page
> Word thinks you're on.
>>
>> Did I answer all of your questions? If not, please continue to
> ask.
>>
>>
>>Happy proofreading!
>>
>>Mayrie
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Debby Franson
>>Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:49 PM
>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: baffling
>>
>>Hi Ann!
>>
>>Thanks for your welcome.
>>
>>Yes, Mayrie was helpful about the page numbering.
>>
>>What is the difference between a hard page break and a soft one?
>>
>>What is the best paper size to use in Word? I haven't changed it since
>>I installed it this summer.
>>
>>Debby
>>
>>At 07:43 AM 10/26/2009, Ann Parsons wrote
>> >Hi all,
>> >
>> >Debbie, nice to meet you. Good thing you have an optacon. That will
>> >make your life easier. Most of us who are blind ask for sighted help
>> >when doing books like yours for precisely those reasons you mentioned.
>> >
>> >I'm sure Mayrie will talk to you about page numbering, but what's
>> >important is the hard page breaks, not the soft ones. If you think
>> >you have more pages than are reported, increase the size of the paper
>> >in Word and see if that helps.
>> >
>> >Ann P.
>> >
>> >--
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