[bksvol-discuss] Re: a question about tables

  • From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 00:39:31 -0500

Hi Cindy,
Newer OCR programs can recognize simple tables well. It would therefore depend on whether your OCR program is new enough to recognize tables. I suspect many people are used to the days of OCR where it mangled the tables rather than producing them in a nicely generated form.
I had some handouts last semester that had quite a few tables. When I scanned them using FineReader 8.0 (as part of Kurzweil) the tables were recognized as such. I found it very helpfult to be able to use the table reading commands. Those same tables as text would have been much more difficult to use. 

Best,
Jake
----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:34 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: a question about tables
I'll have to try that next time. Do I understand you properly Jake? I can scan a table that's in a book and it will OCR as a table? Then why are they not turning out properly in books that people are scanning? Why do they ask to have me do something with them? 
G.Cindy



--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Jake Brownell <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: Jake Brownell <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: a question about tables
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 5:30 PM
Hi Devorah,

It looks like lots of people have already given you good
advice. I'll just add that you can use an actual
"table" that a word processor would use. For
example the tables that Microsoft Word will make under the
Table menu are converted into DAISY tables, which may add
extra navigation features.

Sincerely,
Jake

Jake Brownell
QA Engineer, Bookshare.org
jake.b@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message ----- From: Devorah Greenstein 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 5:50 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] a question about tables


  Folks,

  I know there have been discussions about tables and
I'm sorry I don't remember what was said. The
well-scanned book I'm validating has an occasional
table. One table, for example, has three columns and seven
rows. But some spaces are empty. I mean the left hand
column has five entries, the middle column has seven
entries. I'm working with a copy of the printed book
because there are lots of symbols in the book, and tarot
card layouts and other diagrams.



  I have to re-type this table anyway, because I can't
straighten it out as is. But as a sighted volunteer, I
don't know what the best way to do it is. Can someone
send me a written example? Or give me some hints? I thought
maybe I need to do a bracketed validator note explaining
that it's a three column table, name the column
headings, sort of narrate through the table.

  Or should I just retype the table and maybe put dashes
between the columns? It's all words and names.



  I'd love to hear suggestions.

  Thanks,

  Devorah





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