Cindy, Sorry, if I'm understanding you correctly now, it sounds like you got a hold of a book with section breaks that had been globally replaced with page breaks. Not all section breaks signify a new page, and Word's global search and replace can't distinguish among the different kinds, so changing them to page breaks (^b for ^m) will sometimes cause page breaks to appear in odd places. You'll find section breaks in Carrie's scans, but it's been a while since she changed her settings to prevent FineReader from adding the kind which don't specify a page break, so you probably won't run across any of the other kinds in one of her scans now and may not get to see an example of them. Converting ARK to RTF doesn't affect the page breaks, but the page length can be longer than the scanned page due to OB's putting blank lines between paragraphs. This causes some of the pages to spill over to a second page, increasing the page count. Changing the paper size from Letter to Legal should clear this up in Word. You can find the paper size under the Page Setup submenu under the File menu. You'll need to change to the Paper tab to locate it, though. HTH Gerald -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 8:46 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Fw: A validation question Well, that wasn't my question, thanks. There were/are probably more than 10% missing, but my question was this: Some of the page changes are after only ten lines and the reason for them doesn't make sense. I can see it around the beginning of chapters and the like, but just in the midst somewhere, I don't get any reason for them. Think in the future I'll scan because I know how to do that. I can't reject it now because I've read it from cover to cover and corrected most of the errors in it. That does point up another question though. If you change a file from an .ark file to an .rtf file, do you have more page changes than you would have page breaks? I had changes of pages that, because I was in Word, the computer said "Page 75", but there is no page break there. Are they actually new pages with regard to the book? If not, that would answer my other question and make me wonder just exactly what to do with the book for sure. I might have to reject it then because I had to renew it already. Cindy Lou Ray Cindy Lou Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Hovas" <GeraldHovas@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 7:21 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Fw: A validation question Cindy, Removing all of the page breaks will result in the book being rejected. Books must have page breaks in order to provide correct page navigation in the DAISY books and original page numbers in the BRF books. The guideline Lisa gave me in regards to rejecting books with missing page breaks is if the book is missing more than 10% of the page breaks, then it should be rejected. Note that this is a guideline, not a requirement, so use your best judgement, but be willing to reject if there are a lot of page breaks missing. HTH Gerald -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 4:15 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Fw: A validation question Well, I thought I had subscribed to the list long time ago. No wonder I didn't know how. So following is the message I had sent when I wasn't subscribed. Yup! I'm a pretty darned good volunteer. Cindy Lou Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:51 AM Subject: A validation question Hi, List, First off, I am not sure to what address one E-mails to the volunteer list. I am on it, I might add. *smile* Anyway, I have a question. This question probably would be a good one to discuss in the chat room, but I have no microphone yet. Anyway, here's the question: I am proofreading a book in which all of the new pages do not have page breaks, but many do. Some of the pages are short, like ten lines, and refer to new pages, but there is no page break and there is no reason why such a page break would really need to be there. Does this screw up the software as they attempt to make the book user friendly? If so, how do you get out the page breaks? I have not edited RTF files before. Thanks. 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