I only met Pierre once, while visiting a SAC meeting while in Phoenix on business. I don't recall very much about him except to say that he impressed me enough (and got enough accolades from people like Steve Coe and AJ Crayon) that I was going to order a 13-inch scope from him a few months later-- then got the word that he was gravely ill with cancer. So I did not place the order. Although I don't have the close personal connection to Pierre that many of you do, I would like to think that my memories of him (or any other person I cared about) would be in my heart and thus portable and not tied to a particular piece of ground. As I see it, whether we have the winter star gaze at Sentinel, the Antennas, or downtown Phoenix does not matter. What matters is that we gather as friends and in remembrance of a great amateur astronomer and scope building perfectionist. That's good enough for me. Dick Harshaw -----Original Message----- From: az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Tejera Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 5:41 PM To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: The Last Sentinel-Schwaar Star Gaze the weekend While I too lament the prospect of not observing at Sentinel again, I do understand the logic behind the move. I know that for you, Steve, = Sentinel is actually an easier drive, but you are in the minority there. While I don=92t particularly feel there all that much risk from illegal = activity, I can't deny it's certainly higher than it would be at the antennas. I've = seen several vans of Future Filberto's workers cruise by under the cover of darkness while there. I doubt they even saw us, and if they did, I'd = suspect they'd be more interested in NOT being noticed by us. Be that as it may, Sometimes one has to accept that change is inevitable. As Ken points out, there's nothing to stop anyone from observing there = if they feel safe in doing so. As for a club event, there are other things = to consider.=20 My policy he past two years has been to trust the event organizers = judgment. So far it's worked well.=20 My 0.0346160 Brasilian Reais Worth Clear Skies Rick Tejera President, Editor SACnews Saguaro Astronomy Club Phoenix, Arizona www.saguaroastro.org saguaroastro@xxxxxxx=20 -----Original Message----- From: az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steven Dodder Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 11:16 To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: The Last Sentinel-Schwaar Star Gaze the = weekend I for one do not look at this as a "good decision". I first met Pierre = at Sentinel, and can not place him at any other site in Arizona. In my (relatively few) years of attending this star party and this location, I feel inspired by the memories of him in this location. When he'd arrive = and begin unloading 6 or 7 telescopes, mounts, binoculars, and sundry other hand-made paraphernailia, the feeling of cameraderie washed over the = field, taking everyone with it. Moving the party somewhere "more convenient" = for some misses the spirit of the event entirely, imho. Rosie and I have visited the Sentinel site on our own many times as a = dark site and "road trip" and have NEVER encountered any problems. It is = close for us and darker than Vekol, (which is essentially the same as our back yard). I can't say I'd attend a star party with Pierre's name on it at another location. It wouldn't be the same. It may be your last trip there, but = it surely won't be ours. Steve and Rosie Dodder=20 sdodder@xxxxxxxxxxx Visit my web site at http://www.stargazing.net/Astroman > From: stevecoe@xxxxxxxxx > To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > CC: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [AZ-Observing] The Last Sentinel-Schwaar Star Gaze the = weekend > Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:51:33 -0700 >=20 > Howdy all; > =20 >=20 > Well, it does not seem to be so, but after 21 years of viewing the sky from > Sentinel, Az. we are going to make this the last trip. The "Antennas" site > off of Hovatter Road is better, safer, easier to get to, and that is = going > to be the "far west" site from now on. I believe that to be a good > decision. >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!=A0 Play Star Shuffle:=A0 the word = scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=3Dstarshuffle_wlmailtextlink_= oct -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and = please=20 send personal replies to the author, not the list. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.