[audacity4blind] Re: Sync-Lock WAS Re: Re: Track/project length, SyncLock and more

  • From: Steve the Fiddle <stevethefiddle@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 19:00:42 +0100

Doesn't this become complex when you get into the detail :grin:

Do screen readers read the track panel for selected tracks or for the
track that has focus?

If they read the track panel for the track that has focus, would it be
better if the Sync-Lock status was read when enabled, whether the
sync-lock icon is displayed or not?

1) If the Sync-Lock status is read for all Sync-Locked tracks and not
only for selected Sync-Locked tracks, then I agree that "Sync Lock On"
is better.

2) If the Sync-Lock status is only read when the track is selected,
and thus is putting the meaning of the track Sync-Lock Icon into
words, then I think "Sync-Locked" is probably a better description.

Of these two options I would expect that declaring the Sync-Lock
status, whether or not the icon is displayed, would be more useful
(option 1).

Steve

On 12 October 2012 18:08, Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> | From David Bailes <david_bailes@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> | Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:37:01 +0100 (BST)
> | Subject: Sync-Lock WAS Re: Re: Track/project length, SyncLock and more
>> Hi Robbie,
>> thanks for the feedback.
>> Do you have any preference about whether it should be "sync locked on" or 
>> just "sync locked". An audacity developer thought that it should be "sync 
>> locked on" to fit in with the others, like select on, but I think that just 
>> sync locked would be shorter and just as informative. Any views?
>
> I agreed with that developer, but the menu item is "Sync-Lock
> Tracks" so that developer and I suggested "Sync-Lock On".
> Isn't "Sync-Lock On" more grammatically correct than
> "Sync-Locked On"?
>
> The Sync-Lock icon is not a state indicator for the track (this
> is arguably wrong). So if the Sync-Lock Tracks menu item is on,
> timeshifting a track shifts all tracks in the group, even if the icon
> is off because no tracks are selected. For that reason
> "Sync-Locked" may be more misleading than "Sync-Lock On",
> though if VI users do not use Time Shift Tool this may not matter.
>
> While "Sync-Locked" is possibly OK if it is spoken last, it is not
> OK if spoken before "Select On" because it sounds like
> "Sync-Locked Select On".
>
> I also noticed that Sync-Lock has relatively little effect on the
> Tracks > Align Tracks commands which VI users use. When
> Sync-Lock Tracks is off, these align commands work just on the
> selected track(s), but when Sync-Lock Tracks is on, these
> commands still only work on the selected tracks. The only
> difference is that when Sync-Lock Tracks is on, any unselected
> tracks in the sync-locked group shift to keep synchronisation
> with the selected tracks that were realigned.  I think this is
> probably OK, though.
>
>
>
>
> Gale
>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Robbie <tickleberryfun@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Friday, 12 October 2012, 11:03
>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Sync-Lock WAS Re: Re: Track/project length, 
>> SyncLock and more
>>
>> Hi David!
>> That sounds good. I think Sync-Locked should be spoken after Solo, Mute and
>> Select, since these are statuses which the user might change while
>> processing a sync-lockdd group. So if I mute a trac for instance, I'D want
>> to have that confirmed before the fixed status of Sync-Locked is announced.
>>
>> Cheers, Robbie
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Bailes
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 11:14 AM
>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Sync-Lock WAS Re: Re: Track/project length,
>> SyncLock and more
>>
>> Hi Robbie and anyone else interested,
>> Audacity needs only a very minor modification so that screen readers will
>> read whether a track is displaying the sync locked icon, in a similar manner
>> to select, mute etc. A track displays this icon if sync-lock tracks is
>> checked on the tracks menu, and at least one track is selected in the group.
>> A couple of questions about what screen readers should say:
>> 1. Any preference as to whether the phase "sync locked" or "sync locked on"
>> is used?
>> 2. Any preference as to whether for a selected track the sync locked phrase
>> is read before or after "selected on".
>>
>> thanks,
>> David.
>>
>
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