[audacity4blind] Re: Sync-Lock WAS Re: Re: Track/project length, SyncLock and more

  • From: "Robbie" <tickleberryfun@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:03:47 +0200

Hi David!
That sounds good. I think Sync-Locked should be spoken after Solo, Mute and 
Select, since these are statuses which the user might change while 
processing a sync-lockdd group. So if I mute a trac for instance, I'D want 
to have that confirmed before the fixed status of Sync-Locked is announced.

Cheers, Robbie
-----Original Message-----
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 11:14 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Sync-Lock WAS Re: Re: Track/project length, 
SyncLock and more

Hi Robbie and anyone else interested,
Audacity needs only a very minor modification so that screen readers will 
read whether a track is displaying the sync locked icon, in a similar manner 
to select, mute etc. A track displays this icon if sync-lock tracks is 
checked on the tracks menu, and at least one track is selected in the group.
A couple of questions about what screen readers should say:
1. Any preference as to whether the phase "sync locked" or "sync locked on" 
is used?
2. Any preference as to whether for a selected track the sync locked phrase 
is read before or after "selected on".

thanks,
David.



----- Original Message -----
From: Robbie <tickleberryfun@xxxxxxxxx>
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Sent: Friday, 27 July 2012, 1:09
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Sync-Lock WAS Re: Re: Track/project length, 
SyncLock and more

Hi Gale!
Now that I have grasped the functionality of Sync-Lock I think it's all the 
more important to be able to tell which track is displaying the Sync-Lock 
icon. Especially when tracks across several groups are Sync-Locked, it would 
be good to know which tracks are affected when a certain track is selected. 
Ideally the screen reader should announce that info together with infos such 
as "Solo On" or "Mute On" as you're navigating the track table.

Cheers, Robbie
-----Original Message-----
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gale Andrews
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:46 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Sync-Lock WAS Re: Re: Track/project length, 
SyncLock and more


> -----Original Message-----
> From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Bailes
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 1:08 PM
> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Track/project length, SyncLock and more
> A track is sync locked if any of the tracks in its group are selected.

Confusingly, it's sync-locked with other members of its group, even if not 
selected. The sync-lock icon is not a state indicator of whether the track 
is sync-locked. It is an indicator that the track is in a sync-locked group 
where at least one of the tracks in that group is selected.

A sighted user can demonstrate that by using Time Shift Tool to drag one of 
several unselected tracks when Sync-Lock Tracks is on - all the tracks move 
even though the Sync-Lock icon in the tracks is off.

Maybe this is less of a problem for non-sighted users.





Gale




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