[audacity4blind] Re: Sync-Lock WAS Re: Re: Track/project length, SyncLock and more

  • From: "Robbie" <tickleberryfun@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:29:59 +0200

Hi David!
I think it should be Sync-Locked. In the other cases it says "on" because it 
doesn't say "selected" or "soloed". But hey, what ever it says in the end, 
I'll welcome it.

Cheers, Robbie
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[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:37 PM
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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Sync-Lock WAS Re: Re: Track/project length, 
SyncLock and more

Hi Robbie,
thanks for the feedback.
Do you have any preference about whether it should be "sync locked on" or 
just "sync locked". An audacity developer thought that it should be "sync 
locked on" to fit in with the others, like select on, but I think that just 
sync locked would be shorter and just as informative. Any views?

David.


----- Original Message -----
From: Robbie <tickleberryfun@xxxxxxxxx>
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Friday, 12 October 2012, 11:03
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Sync-Lock WAS Re: Re: Track/project length, 
SyncLock and more

Hi David!
That sounds good. I think Sync-Locked should be spoken after Solo, Mute and 
Select, since these are statuses which the user might change while 
processing a sync-lockdd group. So if I mute a trac for instance, I'D want 
to have that confirmed before the fixed status of Sync-Locked is announced.

Cheers, Robbie
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 11:14 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Sync-Lock WAS Re: Re: Track/project length, 
SyncLock and more

Hi Robbie and anyone else interested,
Audacity needs only a very minor modification so that screen readers will 
read whether a track is displaying the sync locked icon, in a similar manner 
to select, mute etc. A track displays this icon if sync-lock tracks is 
checked on the tracks menu, and at least one track is selected in the group.
A couple of questions about what screen readers should say:
1. Any preference as to whether the phase "sync locked" or "sync locked on"
is used?
2. Any preference as to whether for a selected track the sync locked phrase 
is read before or after "selected on".

thanks,
David.



----- Original Message -----
From: Robbie <tickleberryfun@xxxxxxxxx>
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:
Sent: Friday, 27 July 2012, 1:09
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Sync-Lock WAS Re: Re: Track/project length, 
SyncLock and more

Hi Gale!
Now that I have grasped the functionality of Sync-Lock I think it's all the 
more important to be able to tell which track is displaying the Sync-Lock 
icon. Especially when tracks across several groups are Sync-Locked, it would 
be good to know which tracks are affected when a certain track is selected.
Ideally the screen reader should announce that info together with infos such 
as "Solo On" or "Mute On" as you're navigating the track table.

Cheers, Robbie
-----Original Message-----
From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gale Andrews
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:46 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Sync-Lock WAS Re: Re: Track/project length, 
SyncLock and more


> -----Original Message-----
> From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Bailes
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 1:08 PM
> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Track/project length, SyncLock and more
> A track is sync locked if any of the tracks in its group are selected.

Confusingly, it's sync-locked with other members of its group, even if not
selected. The sync-lock icon is not a state indicator of whether the track
is sync-locked. It is an indicator that the track is in a sync-locked group
where at least one of the tracks in that group is selected.

A sighted user can demonstrate that by using Time Shift Tool to drag one of
several unselected tracks when Sync-Lock Tracks is on - all the tracks move
even though the Sync-Lock icon in the tracks is off.

Maybe this is less of a problem for non-sighted users.





Gale




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