[audacity4blind] Re: Sync-Lock WAS Re: Re: Track/project length, SyncLock and more

  • From: Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 18:08:27 +0100

| From David Bailes <david_bailes@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
| Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:37:01 +0100 (BST)
| Subject: Sync-Lock WAS Re: Re: Track/project length, SyncLock and more
> Hi Robbie,
> thanks for the feedback.
> Do you have any preference about whether it should be "sync locked on" or 
> just "sync locked". An audacity developer thought that it should be "sync 
> locked on" to fit in with the others, like select on, but I think that just 
> sync locked would be shorter and just as informative. Any views?

I agreed with that developer, but the menu item is "Sync-Lock
Tracks" so that developer and I suggested "Sync-Lock On".   
Isn't "Sync-Lock On" more grammatically correct than 
"Sync-Locked On"?  

The Sync-Lock icon is not a state indicator for the track (this 
is arguably wrong). So if the Sync-Lock Tracks menu item is on,
timeshifting a track shifts all tracks in the group, even if the icon 
is off because no tracks are selected. For that reason
"Sync-Locked" may be more misleading than "Sync-Lock On", 
though if VI users do not use Time Shift Tool this may not matter. 

While "Sync-Locked" is possibly OK if it is spoken last, it is not 
OK if spoken before "Select On" because it sounds like 
"Sync-Locked Select On". 

I also noticed that Sync-Lock has relatively little effect on the 
Tracks > Align Tracks commands which VI users use. When 
Sync-Lock Tracks is off, these align commands work just on the 
selected track(s), but when Sync-Lock Tracks is on, these 
commands still only work on the selected tracks. The only 
difference is that when Sync-Lock Tracks is on, any unselected
tracks in the sync-locked group shift to keep synchronisation
with the selected tracks that were realigned.  I think this is 
probably OK, though. 
 



Gale 


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robbie <tickleberryfun@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, 12 October 2012, 11:03
> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Sync-Lock WAS Re: Re: Track/project length, 
> SyncLock and more
> 
> Hi David!
> That sounds good. I think Sync-Locked should be spoken after Solo, Mute and 
> Select, since these are statuses which the user might change while 
> processing a sync-lockdd group. So if I mute a trac for instance, I'D want 
> to have that confirmed before the fixed status of Sync-Locked is announced.
> 
> Cheers, Robbie
> -----Original Message-----
> From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Bailes
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 11:14 AM
> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Sync-Lock WAS Re: Re: Track/project length, 
> SyncLock and more
> 
> Hi Robbie and anyone else interested,
> Audacity needs only a very minor modification so that screen readers will 
> read whether a track is displaying the sync locked icon, in a similar manner 
> to select, mute etc. A track displays this icon if sync-lock tracks is 
> checked on the tracks menu, and at least one track is selected in the group.
> A couple of questions about what screen readers should say:
> 1. Any preference as to whether the phase "sync locked" or "sync locked on" 
> is used?
> 2. Any preference as to whether for a selected track the sync locked phrase 
> is read before or after "selected on".
> 
> thanks,
> David.
> 


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