Hi Gene!
I'm editing in Audacity exactly the way you describe, by using the selection
commands as per Steve's mail. I use ctrl-1 and ctrl-3 to zoom in and out,
thereby increasing or decreasing the increment. By pressing ctrl-1 repeatedly
I can decrease the increment to a millisecond and achieve precise cuts.
Cheers! Robbie
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 2:03 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Playback commands for checking a selected time
range
The commands don't do what I'm asking about. The point is not to create a
selection, the point is to incrementally adjust a selection you have already
made, changing both the cursor and the right marker as needed. And the shift
left and right arrow commands don't change the selection incrementally.
As an example of what I am describing, let's say you set the cursor somewhere
in a file. You then set the right marker.
using the listen commands you find that the cursor is a fraction of a second
too far into the file and you find that the right marker is a fraction of a
second before the position you want it to be. There should be commands that
allow you to move each marker incrementally, by a tiny fraction of a second
back or forward. Pressing the move back or forward command repeatedly would
allow you to move the markers very precisely to where you want them to be.
this is an essential feature for blind people to be able to edit precisely.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve the Fiddle" <stevethefiddle@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 6:26 AM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Playback commands for checking a selected time
range
Gene wrote: "Shift left arrow and shift right arrow couldn't do what
is wanted because whatever they may do, they are only two commands"
The set of 4 commands are:
1) Shift + Left
2) Shift + Right
3) Ctrl + Shift + Left
4) Ctrl + Shift + Right.
For more details and additional selection commands, see;
http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/audacity_selection.html#keyboard
Steve
On 19 July 2015 at 12:18, Gene <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
No I don't have the JAWS scripts installed. And if I did, how would
shift left and right arrow do what I want? I asked about moving the
left and right markers by increments. That means being able to move
them both forward and badckward by tiny increments. Anyone who uses
Goldwave for serious editing or Mp3 Direct Cut for serious editing
should know what I am describing. Shift left arrow and shift right
arrow couldn't do what is wanted because whatever they may do, they
are only two commands. What is needed are four commands. Move the
left marker back incrementally, move the left marker forward
incrementally, move the right marker back incrementally and move the
right arrow forward incrementally.
Gene
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Kruger"
<jacob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 4:43 AM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Playback commands for checking a
selected time range
Gene, do you have the jaws scripts installed, and are you using
windows/jaws?
Asking since think those shift and ctrl + left and right commands
are included in the jaws scripts.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 11:43 PM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Playback commands for checking a
selected time range
I doubt it. Are you talking about commands that change where you
are listening in a file while it is playing? I know that the
commands you gave can change where you are listening. I don't know
what, if anything, they do when Audacity is stopped with a file
opened. Whatever they may do when Audacity is stopped, they don't
do what I am asking about. I am asking about commands that move
the left marker or the cursor, the same thing, a tiny increment to
the right and left and another set of commands that move the right
marker incrementally to the right and left.
Gene
----- Original Message ----- From: "L.F. Meijer (Pengaarde)"
<lfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Playback commands for checking a
selected time range
Hello, Gene,
To change the selected fragment:
a. to move the end position to the right: shift-arrow right.
b. to move the start position to the left: shift-arrow left.
c. to move the end position to the left: control-shift-arrow left.
d. to move the start position to the right: control-shift-arrow right.
Is this you wished to know?
Kind regards,
Loek.
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-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 10:45 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Playback commands for checking a
selected time range
Also, does audacity have a command to move a start or end marker
vack or forward by a fractional amount so you can not only hear
where the markers are located, but also move them an incremental
amount?
Gene
----- Original Message ----- From: "L.F. Meijer (Pengaarde)"
<lfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 2:47 PM
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Playback commands for checking a
selected time range
Hello, David,
The new commands as shift-f5 up to shift-f8 are useful additional
ones.
Thanks.
However, the c-command for a play cut preview was useful too.
This command hasnot any effect in the new version of Audacity,
although it has been defined as a shortcut. How can I repair
this?
Kind regards,
Loek.
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Isaäc Sweersstraat 17
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T: 033-2464374
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-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: David Bailes
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 6:14 PM
To: Audacity4blind
Subject: [audacity4blind] Playback commands for checking a
selected time range
In Audacity 2.1.1, there are four new playback commands to check
that you've selected the time range which you want:
1. To play a short period before selection start, press shift+F5.
2. To play a short period after selection start, press shift+F6.
3. To play a short period before selection end, press shift+F7.
4. To play a short period after selection end, press shift+F8.
Of these commands, shift+F7 to play a short period before
selection end will probably be the most useful. It allows you to
listen to the end of the selection without having to listen to
the whole selected time range.
The periods before and after selection start/end share the same
settings as the play cut preview command (C), and can be set in
the playback category of Preferences.
These commands are similar to the corresponding commands
available in mp3directcut.
David.
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