Yves,
I have not seen what kind of “difference” we’re talking between ACPU and plain
sending from Photoshop/InDesign/Illustrator/Acrobat to Epson/Canon RGB driver?
I *will* get to investigate it…. Adobe once sold a RIP called PressReady which
could directly drive Epson 2200 and a few other models. It wasn’t cheap but not
overly expensive either.
/ Roger
From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf
Of Yves Gauvreau
Sent: December 11, 2019 7:23 AM
To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Something is wrong
Roger,
in the seventies they where promising us that computer would be "intelligent",
as you can see we are not there yet and by far. From what I've seen so far,
whatever software you use to print, you always have to enable/disable color
management at the driver level of the printer, it seems application and driver
don't talk much, at least in the Microsoft universe. Maybe it's different on
Apples and possibly on Linux, I don't know.
Yves
PS. I'm talking about application, not plugins, that"s different.
On 12/10/2019 2:36 PM, graxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:graxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Also, one thing I noticed on Adobe’s download page is the fact that we still
need to disable color management in the driver? You have already compared the
output straight from Photoshop, with no color management enable in the print
dialog, to the output from ACPU? And seen a systematic difference?
I’m flabbergasted…
/ Roger
From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
Behalf Of Yves Gauvreau
Sent: December 10, 2019 2:31 PM
To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Something is wrong
Roger,
I've never tried anything other than raster files with ACPU, sorry.
On 12/10/2019 1:51 PM, graxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:graxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yves,
Please correct me if I’m wrong but the ACPU is not a “RIP” or full printer
front-end: my point is, does it accept only raster images? Or can it also take
PDFs? Or install as a full “print driver”, selectable, just like any printer?
/ Roger
From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
Behalf Of Yves Gauvreau
Sent: December 10, 2019 9:08 AM
To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Something is wrong
The print utility (ACPU) is an app on its own, no need for anything else.
On 12/10/2019 8:34 AM, graxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:graxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Alan,
Thanks for the information. I believe I have used Adobe Print Utility to “talk”
to my printer in the past. Maybe you know a solution to print through APU from
InDesign or Illustrator, or even Acrobat?
/ Roger
From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
Behalf Of Alan Goldhammer (Redacted sender "agoldhammer" for DMARC)
Sent: December 9, 2019 3:07 PM
To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Something is wrong
Roger,
Adobe removed the feature allowing profile targets to be printed using
Photoshop some versions ago (I think CS4 was the last version that supported
profile target printing easily). What you describe below won’t work with any
current version. You must use the ‘null transform’ technique which adds
several steps to the process. It’s far easier to use the Adobe Color Printer
Utility to do the job; one less thing to go wrong.
Alan
From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of graxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx ;
<mailto:graxx@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 2:39 PM
To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Something is wrong
Yves,
So you started “fresh”, in the sense that, you generated a smaller set of
patches, this time, which allowed you to save ink and paper, and measuring
time, and you ran that target on your Canon Pro-1000 printer through Photoshop,
with color management *disabled* in the driver, which you then measured with
your ColorMunki? Good man 😊!
Are you going to be able to send a copy of your hard-earned profile? For your
“friends” to look at? Considering ALL the help we gave you – wink, wink 😉
/ Roger
