[access-uk] Re: Kindle Keyboard v Kindle Fire
- From: "Griffiths, Steve" <Steve.Griffiths@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 11:38:35 +0100
I've sent this message twice already but it hasn't got through. Third
time lucky!
Yes and no. You can get to some information on the Fire, like battery
life, which you couldn't on the Keyboard. And there are other apps which
you might be able to use; I haven't tried them. But in terms of reading
books, there are less voice options. On the keyboard you had two, with
three speeds. On the Fire you have one voice with one speed. It is a
better voice, in my opinion, but that's in the ear of the beholder.
Overall, once the features have been turned on for you, you can now use
a Kindle Fire with speech to start the device, find the Book app, open
it, browse the list of books there (and download them from the cloud if
necessary), then open one and read it.
I'd say it's at least as good as the keyboard. I'd be interested in what
others think. And I'd like to know if you can now go into a Waterstones
and get a demo of the speech facilities!
Steve
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[mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of mark bishop
Sent: 11 April 2013 16:54
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Kindle Keyboard v Kindle Fire
Hi Steve
Are you saying with the update you can now access as much with the fire
as you can with the keyboard?
thanks
Mark Bishop
----- Original Message -----
From: Griffiths, Steve <mailto:Steve.Griffiths@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:41 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Kindle Keyboard v Kindle Fire
An update for the Kindle Fire 7" came out recently, and it has
good improvements for the TTS capability, bringing it into line with the
8.9" unit. They have unlocked the Explore by Touch feature of the
underlying Android operating system, which allows a speech user to
navigate the main screens and menus, browse the list of books on the
device, open one and read it unaided.
Note that the speech feature still needs sight turn it on,
navigation within books is still frustratingly limited, and there are no
options at all for the voice - you can't even change the rate. I need to
do some more playing with it before I update our web page about the
Fire. I'll be concentrating on the book reading features, although I'll
also be interested to see if you can use the email, calendar and other
features of the device.
Steve
From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of mark bishop
Sent: 10 April 2013 18:35
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Kindle Keyboard v Kindle Fire
Hi Trevor
I have been led to believe that although the books will read the
same as on the keyboard, actually selecting the books does not speak.
Is this correct? if so then do you have enough vision to use this part
of the device. I would not have this amount of sight wsowould be
reliant solely on speech.
thanks
Mark Bishop
----- Original Message -----
From: Trevor Ruane <mailto:trevor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 6:12 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Kindle Keyboard v Kindle Fire
At the end of February, Steve Griffiths of RNIB kindly
set out the differences between the Kindle Keyboard and the Kindle Fire.
What he said was very useful and has more or less set my course to buy a
Fire to replace my Keyboard. I have just been very fortunate in having
a friend loan me a Fire to try, and now I am not so sure about
switching. The following might be of interest to some.
Fire's TTS is (to my mind) superb. I have experience of
TTS only on my old VR Stream and Textaloud MP3 on my PC, but it
certainly far surpasses both of them.
The facility for white on black for ebooks is terrific.
It cuts out the glare that one gets from a pure white background and
does not illuminate one's face when reading closely!
I was a little disappointed by the maximum text size on
the Fire. I measured it at about 8 mm as opposed to the Keyboard's 9.5
mm for a capital letter in the largest font. Not a lot of difference,
but it could be critical for some.
I now have to decide whether the advantages of the Fire
outweigh the slightly smaller font size. If I take into account the
excellent internet browsing facilities on the Fire and the colour screen
(as well as the above), I think I will probably go for one. However, I
won't get rid of my Keyboard too quickly!
Trevor Ruane
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