[access-uk] Re: Kindle Keyboard v Kindle Fire
- From: Mark Bishop <franciscan.me@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:43:14 +0100
So is it worth the money just for book reading? Is this the hd version
Mark bishop
Sent from my iPhone
On 12 Apr 2013, at 13:16, "Griffiths, Steve" <Steve.Griffiths@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> Mark,
>
> You can have move books on and off the device as you see fit. When you
> buy a book from Amazon you can specify one Kindle device to download it
> to as part of the purchase process. You can then either go to a list of
> the books you've bought, choose one and download it to any other devices
> you have, or go to the device and download it from the cloud. So if the
> Fire is your only Kindle device, there's nothing to stop you pushing
> every book you buy onto it straight away.
>
> I would hope to look at the other parts of the Kindle Fire, but I am
> primarily interested in the reading of books so I won't be doing any
> in-depth work on the rest of it any time soon.
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of mark bishop
> Sent: 12 April 2013 12:47
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Kindle Keyboard v Kindle Fire
>
> Hi Steve
> You mention downloading books from the cloud, does that mean the books
> are
> not actually on the kindle fire? Also given the price I am guessing it
> will
> only be worth it if you can use other parts of it. Hope you will let us
>
> know more.
> Mark Bishop
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Griffiths, Steve" <Steve.Griffiths@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 11:38 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Kindle Keyboard v Kindle Fire
>
>
>> I've sent this message twice already but it hasn't got through. Third
>> time lucky!
>>
>> Yes and no. You can get to some information on the Fire, like battery
>> life, which you couldn't on the Keyboard. And there are other apps
> which
>> you might be able to use; I haven't tried them. But in terms of
> reading
>> books, there are less voice options. On the keyboard you had two, with
>> three speeds. On the Fire you have one voice with one speed. It is a
>> better voice, in my opinion, but that's in the ear of the beholder.
>>
>> Overall, once the features have been turned on for you, you can now
> use
>> a Kindle Fire with speech to start the device, find the Book app, open
>> it, browse the list of books there (and download them from the cloud
> if
>> necessary), then open one and read it.
>>
>> I'd say it's at least as good as the keyboard. I'd be interested in
> what
>> others think. And I'd like to know if you can now go into a
> Waterstones
>> and get a demo of the speech facilities!
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of mark bishop
>> Sent: 11 April 2013 16:54
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Kindle Keyboard v Kindle Fire
>>
>> Hi Steve
>> Are you saying with the update you can now access as much with the
> fire
>> as you can with the keyboard?
>> thanks
>> Mark Bishop
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Griffiths, Steve <mailto:Steve.Griffiths@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:41 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Kindle Keyboard v Kindle Fire
>>
>>
>> An update for the Kindle Fire 7" came out recently, and it has
>> good improvements for the TTS capability, bringing it into line with
> the
>> 8.9" unit. They have unlocked the Explore by Touch feature of the
>> underlying Android operating system, which allows a speech user to
>> navigate the main screens and menus, browse the list of books on the
>> device, open one and read it unaided.
>>
>>
>>
>> Note that the speech feature still needs sight turn it on,
>> navigation within books is still frustratingly limited, and there are
> no
>> options at all for the voice - you can't even change the rate. I need
> to
>> do some more playing with it before I update our web page about the
>> Fire. I'll be concentrating on the book reading features, although
> I'll
>> also be interested to see if you can use the email, calendar and other
>> features of the device.
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>> From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of mark bishop
>> Sent: 10 April 2013 18:35
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Kindle Keyboard v Kindle Fire
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Trevor
>>
>> I have been led to believe that although the books will read the
>> same as on the keyboard, actually selecting the books does not speak.
>> Is this correct? if so then do you have enough vision to use this
> part
>> of the device. I would not have this amount of sight wsowould be
>> reliant solely on speech.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Mark Bishop
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Trevor Ruane <mailto:trevor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 6:12 PM
>>
>> Subject: [access-uk] Kindle Keyboard v Kindle Fire
>>
>>
>>
>> At the end of February, Steve Griffiths of RNIB kindly
>> set out the differences between the Kindle Keyboard and the Kindle
> Fire.
>> What he said was very useful and has more or less set my course to buy
> a
>> Fire to replace my Keyboard. I have just been very fortunate in
> having
>> a friend loan me a Fire to try, and now I am not so sure about
>> switching. The following might be of interest to some.
>>
>> Fire's TTS is (to my mind) superb. I have experience of
>> TTS only on my old VR Stream and Textaloud MP3 on my PC, but it
>> certainly far surpasses both of them.
>>
>> The facility for white on black for ebooks is terrific.
>> It cuts out the glare that one gets from a pure white background and
>> does not illuminate one's face when reading closely!
>>
>> I was a little disappointed by the maximum text size on
>> the Fire. I measured it at about 8 mm as opposed to the Keyboard's
> 9.5
>> mm for a capital letter in the largest font. Not a lot of difference,
>> but it could be critical for some.
>>
>> I now have to decide whether the advantages of the Fire
>> outweigh the slightly smaller font size. If I take into account the
>> excellent internet browsing facilities on the Fire and the colour
> screen
>> (as well as the above), I think I will probably go for one. However,
> I
>> won't get rid of my Keyboard too quickly!
>>
>> Trevor Ruane
>>
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