[access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options

  • From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 16:46:29 -0000

I agree with you again Derek but not talking about the company you mention, in general, I believe the sad situation is that there has to be a ruling authority about employing a number of disabled people in the workplace, otherwise such people are left on the back burner. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 

To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:29 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options



But there was  discussion  about taking ona blind person, Why?

Nobody should be taken on because blind.
So what's the  problem?

Are you  trying to say that  Sight & Sound reject
Those that are blind!

I am saying  it   doesn't matter if staff are sighted or not.

Regards,  Derek
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Paul Leake
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 3:50 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options
derek nobody is recommending taking a blind person on if they don't have the 

ability to do the job, what a silly suggestion you make! who needs enemies
with you as a friend?

Cheers

Paul

paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 3:34 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options



Hi  Jackie
Surely  it would  be bad management  if one was to take on
A member of staff  on the basis blind.

Staff should never be taken on  based on disability,  it should
Always be based on  ability  to do the  job, And also  is there need  for
the extra job?
Clearly  in the case of  Sight & Sound,  they must feel they
Have  enough staff  now.
Regards,  Derek
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
Jackie Cairns
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 2:31 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options
As you know Paul, I gave S and S every assistance I could to advertise and 
recruit a blind person with good Braille skills to become part of the
company before I left. Sadly, however, nothing was done about it, I moved 
away, and thankfully we all appear to be happy with the paths we have
taken.
(smile).


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns
J&M Work-Ability

jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.work-ability.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
Paul Leake
Sent: 03 November 2010 22:28
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options

i think it is a great pity that a company the size of sight and sound
chooses not to employ fulltime a blind person in such a role! this calls
into question your commitment to employing blind people in my view! very
poor indeed!

Cheers

Paul

paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Tookey" <Glenn.Tookey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:16 PM
Subject: [access-uk] FW: Re: Braille display options



Actually we do have a blind person to demonstrate, train and support our
customer base. We have Jonathan Tyrer, who works UK wide for us in this
role. He is not a full time employee, but he works for us on a day to day 
basis and has been successful. He has a very wide experience base - not
just Freedom products, but all software and hardware and also more
recently Apple solutions.
This for me is what we are all about, looking after our customer base, so 
if you would like to learn more about the Focus 40 Blue just contact us
and we will do our best to help.

Regards
Glenn


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jackie Cairns
Sent: 02 November 2010 10:02
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille display options

They don't have a blind person like myself to go out and demo, train and
support their Braille products as it currently stands and, in my honest
experience, there is nobody like a Braillist to really demonstrate what a 
display or other similar hardware can do.


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns
J&M Work-Ability

jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.work-ability.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
Eleanor Burke
Sent: 02 November 2010 09:49
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille display options

Ask Sight & Sound Catherine.  Sight & Sound are aware that it does not
work
with the N97 Mini as I told them.  Also informed Freedom Scientific.
Maybe
it has to do with N97 Mini being a 5th generation phone but it works well with the other phones. Don't Sight & Sound have a service, well they did 
when Jackie worked there, where someone would come out and show you a
Braille display, in that case, the person could try it with our phone and 
then you would know before purchasing it.  There is a really nice man at
Freedom Scientific who uses the Focus Blue all the time with his phone.
I
wrote to him too re the drivers but whether they do anything about it or
not
is anyone's guess.  While I was disappointed, I have to say of course
that
the Focus Blue is excellent in conjunction with PC also.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Catherine Turner" <catherineturner2007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 9:24 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille display options



Ah.  Did you ask the manufacturer about this?  Is there a particular
reason why it doesn't work with the n97 mini?  Is there any way of
knowing before purchase whether it would work or not.  I will have to
ask Sight And Sound about it, but presumably if it didn't work I could
return it for a refund.

Catherine

On 11/3/10, Eleanor Burke <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


you want to ensure that it will work as I got the Focus Blue and it
does not work with the N97 Mini but iT works with my other phones.
-original message-
Subject: [access-uk] Braille display options
From: Catherine Turner <catherineturner2007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 02/11/2010 7:37 am

Hi,

My BrailleNote PK died recently and I decided it wasn't worth the
price to fix it, it needing a new memory board.  So I am tentatively
looking at braille display options.  I need either to be able to
write notes on the braille display, or for the display to work with
my Nokia
E5 mobile phone running Talks.  Having used an 18 cell display for
some time now I know I would not want to go below that.

Am I right in thinking that the Focus 40 blue, at £1995 from Sight
And Sound, would be the cheapest option?

Catherine
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