[access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options
- From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 16:29:51 -0000
But there was discussion about taking ona blind person, Why?
Nobody should be taken on because blind.
So what's the problem?
Are you trying to say that Sight & Sound reject
Those that are blind!
I am saying it doesn't matter if staff are sighted or not.
Regards, Derek
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Paul Leake
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 3:50 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options
derek nobody is recommending taking a blind person on if they don't have the
ability to do the job, what a silly suggestion you make! who needs enemies
with you as a friend?
Cheers
Paul
paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 3:34 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options
> Hi Jackie
> Surely it would be bad management if one was to take on
> A member of staff on the basis blind.
>
> Staff should never be taken on based on disability, it should
> Always be based on ability to do the job, And also is there need for
> the extra job?
> Clearly in the case of Sight & Sound, they must feel they
> Have enough staff now.
> Regards, Derek
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> Jackie Cairns
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 2:31 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options
>
> As you know Paul, I gave S and S every assistance I could to advertise and
> recruit a blind person with good Braille skills to become part of the
> company before I left. Sadly, however, nothing was done about it, I moved
> away, and thankfully we all appear to be happy with the paths we have
> taken.
> (smile).
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Jackie Cairns
> J&M Work-Ability
>
> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.work-ability.co.uk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> Paul Leake
> Sent: 03 November 2010 22:28
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options
>
> i think it is a great pity that a company the size of sight and sound
> chooses not to employ fulltime a blind person in such a role! this calls
> into question your commitment to employing blind people in my view! very
> poor indeed!
>
> Cheers
>
> Paul
>
> paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glenn Tookey" <Glenn.Tookey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:16 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] FW: Re: Braille display options
>
>
>> Actually we do have a blind person to demonstrate, train and support our
>> customer base. We have Jonathan Tyrer, who works UK wide for us in this
>> role. He is not a full time employee, but he works for us on a day to day
>> basis and has been successful. He has a very wide experience base - not
>> just Freedom products, but all software and hardware and also more
>> recently Apple solutions.
>>
>> This for me is what we are all about, looking after our customer base, so
>> if you would like to learn more about the Focus 40 Blue just contact us
>> and we will do our best to help.
>>
>> Regards
>> Glenn
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of Jackie Cairns
>> Sent: 02 November 2010 10:02
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille display options
>>
>> They don't have a blind person like myself to go out and demo, train and
>> support their Braille products as it currently stands and, in my honest
>> experience, there is nobody like a Braillist to really demonstrate what a
>> display or other similar hardware can do.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Jackie Cairns
>> J&M Work-Ability
>>
>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> www.work-ability.co.uk
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Eleanor Burke
>> Sent: 02 November 2010 09:49
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille display options
>>
>> Ask Sight & Sound Catherine. Sight & Sound are aware that it does not
>> work
>> with the N97 Mini as I told them. Also informed Freedom Scientific.
>> Maybe
>> it has to do with N97 Mini being a 5th generation phone but it works well
>> with the other phones. Don't Sight & Sound have a service, well they did
>> when Jackie worked there, where someone would come out and show you a
>> Braille display, in that case, the person could try it with our phone and
>> then you would know before purchasing it. There is a really nice man at
>> Freedom Scientific who uses the Focus Blue all the time with his phone.
>> I
>> wrote to him too re the drivers but whether they do anything about it or
>> not
>> is anyone's guess. While I was disappointed, I have to say of course
>> that
>> the Focus Blue is excellent in conjunction with PC also.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Catherine Turner" <catherineturner2007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 9:24 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille display options
>>
>>
>>> Ah. Did you ask the manufacturer about this? Is there a particular
>>> reason why it doesn't work with the n97 mini? Is there any way of
>>> knowing before purchase whether it would work or not. I will have to
>>> ask Sight And Sound about it, but presumably if it didn't work I could
>>> return it for a refund.
>>>
>>> Catherine
>>>
>>> On 11/3/10, Eleanor Burke <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> you want to ensure that it will work as I got the Focus Blue and it
>>>> does not work with the N97 Mini but iT works with my other phones.
>>>> -original message-
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Braille display options
>>>> From: Catherine Turner <catherineturner2007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date: 02/11/2010 7:37 am
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> My BrailleNote PK died recently and I decided it wasn't worth the
>>>> price to fix it, it needing a new memory board. So I am tentatively
>>>> looking at braille display options. I need either to be able to
>>>> write notes on the braille display, or for the display to work with
>>>> my Nokia
>>>> E5 mobile phone running Talks. Having used an 18 cell display for
>>>> some time now I know I would not want to go below that.
>>>>
>>>> Am I right in thinking that the Focus 40 blue, at £1995 from Sight
>>>> And Sound, would be the cheapest option?
>>>>
>>>> Catherine
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