[access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options

  • From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 11:44:16 -0000

Hi Derek

I can only respond diplomatically by saying that it would have been
appropriate and correct protocol to actually advertise the post to give the
best opportunity to the best candidate.  Sadly, this did not happen despite
my attempts to persuade management to at least advertise in the normal way.
But, as Mr Tookey has stated, he has someone who can do the job without
necessarily being in the office, and if this works for S and S, then that is
their call.  I chose to leave for lots of reasons, all of which I have been
able to justify and am extremely happy with.  I also left in the knowledge
that I did a good job as a Braillist and blind person, and made many friends
from my two years as an employee there.  Unfortunately, there was nobody in
the whole company who knew grade two Braille at the time of my departure,
which makes rather a mockery of selling blindness products to that intended
audience.  However, that was then and life for me has much more meaning and
purpose than it has for a long time, so I wish everyone well.


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns
J&M Work-Ability

jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.work-ability.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Derek Hornby
Sent: 04 November 2010 15:34
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options

Hi  Jackie
Surely  it would  be bad management  if one was to take on A member of staff
on the basis blind.

Staff should never be taken on  based on disability,  it should Always be
based on  ability  to do the  job, And also  is there need  for the extra
job?
Clearly  in the case of  Sight & Sound,  they must feel they Have  enough
staff  now.
Regards,  Derek
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jackie Cairns
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 2:31 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options

As you know Paul, I gave S and S every assistance I could to advertise and
recruit a blind person with good Braille skills to become part of the
company before I left.  Sadly, however, nothing was done about it, I moved
away, and thankfully we all appear to be happy with the paths we have taken.
(smile). 


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns
J&M Work-Ability

jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.work-ability.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Paul Leake
Sent: 03 November 2010 22:28
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: FW: Re: Braille display options

i think it is a great pity that a company the size of sight and sound
chooses not to employ fulltime a blind person in such a role! this calls
into question your commitment to employing blind people in my view! very
poor indeed!

Cheers

Paul

paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Tookey" <Glenn.Tookey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:16 PM
Subject: [access-uk] FW: Re: Braille display options


> Actually we do have a blind person to demonstrate, train and support 
> our customer base. We have Jonathan Tyrer, who works UK wide for us in 
> this role. He is not a full time employee, but he works for us on a 
> day to day basis and has been successful. He has a very wide 
> experience base - not just Freedom products, but all software and 
> hardware and also more recently Apple solutions.
>
> This for me is what we are all about, looking after our customer base, 
> so if you would like to learn more about the Focus 40 Blue just 
> contact us and we will do our best to help.
>
> Regards
> Glenn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Jackie Cairns
> Sent: 02 November 2010 10:02
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille display options
>
> They don't have a blind person like myself to go out and demo, train 
> and support their Braille products as it currently stands and, in my 
> honest experience, there is nobody like a Braillist to really 
> demonstrate what a display or other similar hardware can do.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Jackie Cairns
> J&M Work-Ability
>
> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.work-ability.co.uk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
> Sent: 02 November 2010 09:49
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille display options
>
> Ask Sight & Sound Catherine.  Sight & Sound are aware that it does not 
> work with the N97 Mini as I told them.  Also informed Freedom 
> Scientific.
> Maybe
> it has to do with N97 Mini being a 5th generation phone but it works 
> well with the other phones.  Don't Sight & Sound have a service, well 
> they did when Jackie worked there, where someone would come out and 
> show you a Braille display, in that case, the person could try it with 
> our phone and then you would know before purchasing it.  There is a 
> really nice man at Freedom Scientific who uses the Focus Blue all the 
> time with his phone.  I wrote to him too re the drivers but whether 
> they do anything about it or not is anyone's guess.  While I was 
> disappointed, I have to say of course that the Focus Blue is excellent 
> in conjunction with PC also.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Catherine Turner" <catherineturner2007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 9:24 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille display options
>
>
>> Ah.  Did you ask the manufacturer about this?  Is there a particular 
>> reason why it doesn't work with the n97 mini?  Is there any way of 
>> knowing before purchase whether it would work or not.  I will have to 
>> ask Sight And Sound about it, but presumably if it didn't work I 
>> could return it for a refund.
>>
>> Catherine
>>
>> On 11/3/10, Eleanor Burke <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> you want to ensure that it will work as I got the Focus Blue and it 
>>> does not work with the N97 Mini but iT works with my other phones.
>>> -original message-
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Braille display options
>>> From: Catherine Turner <catherineturner2007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date: 02/11/2010 7:37 am
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> My BrailleNote PK died recently and I decided it wasn't worth the 
>>> price to fix it, it needing a new memory board.  So I am tentatively 
>>> looking at braille display options.  I need either to be able to 
>>> write notes on the braille display, or for the display to work with 
>>> my Nokia
>>> E5 mobile phone running Talks.  Having used an 18 cell display for 
>>> some time now I know I would not want to go below that.
>>>
>>> Am I right in thinking that the Focus 40 blue, at £1995 from Sight 
>>> And Sound, would be the cheapest option?
>>>
>>> Catherine
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