... forwarding this. SW ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Charlie Leach (whatmusic) <charlie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: CHORA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 2:52:03 PM Subject: Re: On Discussions about Free WIll Sean, The idea that we don't have free will is probably the most powerful and pernicious philosophical theory known, and has caused untold damage in society today. It continues to do so. It may seem like just a mathematical puzzle to cerebral philosophers immune to their own memes, but out in the world the damage is immense. I recommend this 1996 article by Tom Wolfe: http://orthodoxytoday.org/articles/Wolfe-Sorry-But-Your-Soul-Just-Died.php Here's a quote referring to the idea of determinism cloaked in neuroscience: "The elders, such as Wilson himself and Daniel C. Dennett, the author of Darwin's Dangerous Idea: Evolution and the Meanings of Life, and Richard Dawkins, author of The Selfish Gene and The Blind Watchmaker, insist that there is nothing to fear from the truth, from the ultimate extension of Darwin's dangerous idea. They present elegant arguments as to why neuroscience should in no way diminish the richness of life, the magic of art, or the righteousness of political causes, including, if one need edit, political correctness at Harvard or Tufts, where Dennett is Director of the Center for Cognitive Studies, or Oxford, where Dawkins is something called Professor of Public Understanding of Science. (Dennett and Dawkins, every bit as much as Wilson, are earnestly, feverishly, politically correct.) Despite their best efforts, however, neuroscience is not rippling out into the public on waves of scholarly reassurance. But rippling out it is, rapidly. The conclusion people out beyond the laboratory walls are drawing is: The fix is in! We're all hardwired! That, and: Don't blame me! I'm wired wrong!" > If you take time out in the slums of inner city life, you can see that idea that we cannot be blamed for anything taking hold like wildfire. Beat up my wife? steal a car? knife someone? can't get a job? Don't blame me I'm just wired that way. The learned judges all point to the learned philosophers with their determinism and pronounce the vexatious criminal correct. The word soon gets out. Pretty soon 'being hardwired' into poverty and hopelessness becomes a badge of honour. Kids intimidate and bully with slogans such as "intelligent is stupid" (T Dalyrimple: "Life at the Bottom") and settle into a prison as strong as any yet invented by the mind of man: where you believe there is no hope for you and therefore never try. This attitude is probably the biggest contributor to the accelerating growth in the underclass in Britain today. You might say: "it's not my fault the average man can't tell the difference between determinism and fatalism, I'm all right Jack, I understand the difference and will enjoy my freedom and leave the dumb masses to their predestined end. I'm right about my idea and that's all the matters, the world be damned." But what if you're not right? what if there is free will, what if man is free and philosophy just got caught in a stagnant eddy of incoherent thought (you've seen it happen). What then of all the people listening at the doors of the ivory towers for 'the truth' handed out with scholarly authority: hordes of judges, liberals, do-gooders, and the guilt ridden politically correct, eager disciples of this message that we can't blame anyone, trying to help out by spreading the word, but succeeding in nothing more than turning the underclass into a ghetto imprisoned by an idea. Of course you have to defend what is right and what you believe in with intellectual honesty, but this debate on free will is not a mere intellectual game, played frivolously by intellectuals in an ivory tower without consequences. The world is listening, and the winners of the free will debate will determine the wholesale shift of modern culture towards responsibility or nihilism. It's a very real problem and the stakes could hardly be higher. Charlie