[THIN] Re: Novell Integration

If the only reason you have a Win 2K domain is Citrix you can switch to
a simple workgroup (all local accounts) if you go with DLU there is no
reason for a domain or AD for that matter. NDS will store all the user
ID's and you can roam your profiles to a Netware server if you don't
want to deal with have a Windows server store the profiles.
 
 
Check out  CTX101898 on the Citrix support site before you change your
infrastructure again.  This is a very good document that details the
various setups and options for Novell integration.

>>> craig@xxxxxxxxxxxx 9/30/2003 10:24:27 AM >>>

This is a NetWare 5.1 server, with, I assume Zenworks 2.  Im not 100%
sure, 
though.  Most of the workstations are Pentium I and II machines running
Windows 
95 and are logging into the NetWare tree only.  I only introduced the
2000 
domain for Citrix.

Quoting Bill Conwell <wconwell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

> Hi,
> Are your users logging into both the domain and the tree?
> Are you running eDir, and if so, which version?
> What version of Zen are you running?  If you're running XP desktops
you'll
> need ZfDT4 in order to get DLU working.  3.2 DLU won't work with XP
(but will
> work with 2000).
> Bill
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> >>> craig@xxxxxxxxxxxx 09/29/03 10:41PM >>>
> I'm bringing up an old thread. :)
> 
> We went with the dual Windows 2000 domain / Novell NetWare
integration.
> After resetting all of the 1500 passwords, one classroom at a time,
we're
> running into some issues.  Ugh.
> 
> Right now, we're using the Program Neighborhood v7 client on the
> workstations with the Novell Integration.  Users type in their
username and
> password and everything works, sometimes.  Often, what Ill see is
that Ill
> log into the application set, Ill hit refresh, and then it'll come
back
> saying that my credentials are incorrect.  As far as I can tell, the
three
> Citrix servers are all setup the same.  All have the correct
registry
> settings for NDS integration, etc.  What's killing me is that this is
more
> of a problem on Mondays, after the servers reboot on Sunday.  Once I
fumble
> with them on Monday to attempt to get them working, the problem seem
to go
> away and works its self out the rest of the week.
> 
> We're pretty much done with the project, but this integration is
killing me.
> Two user accounts, the password syncs, this Program Neighborhood
problem,
> etc.  I've got one of our Novell guys coming out tomorrow to help me
out
> with the DLU/Zenworks integration to see how well that runs.
> 
> One odd thing that I've noticed.  If I remember correctly, the
advanced
> Citrix FR3 guide states that to have the Microsoft Network
authentication
> piece before the Novell NetWare piece in the provider order.  I've
found
> that in this particular setup I get problems I'm having currently
with
> Program Neighborhood if I /don't/ have the Novell NetWare piece at
the top
> of the list.
> 
> Anyway, I'm hoping that this DLU/Zenworks deal can save my behind. 
This
> login problem is /killing/ me.  Any ideas?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig M. Luchtefeld [mailto:craig@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 7:56 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' 
> Subject: Novell Integration
> 
> 
> Does anyone have any thoughts about which Novell integration route is
better
> -- the ZENWorks/Dynamic Local User route or the simultaneous Windows
2000
> domain route with dual accounts?
> 
> I've got a school I'm working with, approximately 1500 students with
the
> environment holding anywhere from 150-200 concurrent sessions.  We're
still
> in the 'testing' phase, so we can still go either route for
deployment.  My
> problem with the Windows 2000/Novell route is that they're going to
have to
> create two accounts for every student, we're going to have to
sync/reset all
> their passwords, and they're going to have one more point of failure
(if the
> DC goes down).
> 
> Honestly, I need to read up a bit more on how the ZENWorks deal
works, but
> if its creating a dynamic local user, my thought is how are roaming
profiles
> going to work?
> 
> Anyway, has anyone had the opportunity to take a look at both of
these
> pieces and examine the advantages/disadvantages to both?  From the
Advanced
> Guide for FR3, I saw the integration steps for them both, but if I
remember
> correctly, it didn't state advantages/disadvantages to either.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Craig
> 
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