[THIN] Re: Novell Integration
- From: craig@xxxxxxxxxxxx
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 23:25:01 -0500
BTW, I decided to go the AD/Novell route without the Zenworks piece. It's going
to be a terrible pain, though, over the next few days as everyone has to sync
their Novell password with their new Windows password. That's only 1500
students I get to deal with in a two day span.
What's even better about this setup is almost every app either has some video,
audio or COM port mapping that goes along with it. Woooot!
Quoting craig@xxxxxxxxxxxx:
> How did I know that you were going to respond?
>
> I might take a look at both solutions, then, this weekend. I need to get
> moving on this and I'm afraid that the Windows route is going to be a bit too
>
> burdensome. At this point in time, the school has no plans to move from
> NetWare any time soon. Actually, their servers have been rock solid and have
>
> had no problems since their inception (knock on wood).
>
> I know NetWare enough to do whatever I need in NWAdmin. Outside of that,
> though, I have to rely on others. We do have two guys though, that know
> Novell
> stuff inside and out. So, I'm not too worried about the support.
>
> My biggest concern is not that one of these routes wont work - I know that
> they
> will. My concern is about simplicity. Their "administrator" doesnt know
> much
> in the way of network administration and thankfully she knows as much. What
> I
> want is to be able to leave this project and know that Im not going to get a
>
> call every 4 hours on how to do such and such. By adding in the Windows
> component, I know that things will get a bit more complex than they would
> have
> with the ZENWorks route.
>
> Anyway, thanks for the input. Ill take a look at the DLU/Zenworks deal a bit
>
> more today.
>
> Quoting Ron Oglesby <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> > Craig, Long time no see, or hear.....
> > Anyway, the Netware piece works but is not in use as much as the windows
> > stuff obviously. So when something breaks or doesn't work it is hard to
> > find help (or even good support) on it.
> >
> > If you don't know novell doing this is problematic. I have a real good
> > novel guy on my team so it doesn't scrare me. But if I didn't I would
> > recommend Windows every time.
> >
> > I guess the question is that if you HAVE to implement this and no one
> > else you still have to do what is best for the customer. If they don't
> > want windows use netware just be prepared to LEARN a lot.
> >
> > BTW the roaming profile is assigned as a User attribute just like NT/2K
> > and DLU handles creating the local user and setting up profiles etc....
> >
> > PS> Novell has decided netware is dead. No more development for that
> > network OS. Instead all of their development if for Linux. Why stay with
> > a dead product.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ron Oglesby
> > Senior Technical Architect
> >
> > RapidApp
> > Office 312.372.7188
> > Mobile 815.325.7618
> > email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Craig M. Luchtefeld [mailto:craig@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 7:56 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Novell Integration
> >
> > Does anyone have any thoughts about which Novell integration route is
> > better
> > -- the ZENWorks/Dynamic Local User route or the simultaneous Windows
> > 2000
> > domain route with dual accounts?
> >
> > I've got a school I'm working with, approximately 1500 students with the
> > environment holding anywhere from 150-200 concurrent sessions. We're
> > still
> > in the 'testing' phase, so we can still go either route for deployment.
> > My
> > problem with the Windows 2000/Novell route is that they're going to have
> > to
> > create two accounts for every student, we're going to have to sync/reset
> > all
> > their passwords, and they're going to have one more point of failure (if
> > the
> > DC goes down).
> >
> > Honestly, I need to read up a bit more on how the ZENWorks deal works,
> > but
> > if its creating a dynamic local user, my thought is how are roaming
> > profiles
> > going to work?
> >
> > Anyway, has anyone had the opportunity to take a look at both of these
> > pieces and examine the advantages/disadvantages to both? From the
> > Advanced
> > Guide for FR3, I saw the integration steps for them both, but if I
> > remember
> > correctly, it didn't state advantages/disadvantages to either.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Craig
> >
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