[THIN] Re: Novell Integration
- From: Mobeen Azhar <moby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:14:13 -0500
When you say "get their application set", you mean the applications sets in the
Citrix Program neighnorhood client?
--Moby
craig@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
We're not using passthru as the users have to re-type their username/password
when Program Neighborhood pops up. The real problem is that they'll log in,
get their application set, hit refresh, and then come back and tell them that
their credentials are incorrect. Or, sometimes, they'll not even get their
application set because of supposed incorrect credentials. It been hard to
track down.
This problem plauged the client all of yesterday, and today Ive not heard a
peep. We're still going to look at the DLU/Zenworks path and if that works,
we'll re-do the farm (which shouldnt be a huge deal since all 1 million of
their apps are installed already). If not, Im going to have to call up Citrix
to try to get some kind of resolution as a single day of every week of not
having a reliable way to get to their applications is unacceptable.
Thanks for your input.
Quoting Matt Kosht <matt.kosht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
Are you trying to passthru authentication on clients?
I would get the same error when the users Windows and Novell
ID/Password were somehow different (passed the wrong credentials).
Faced with the similar issues DLU was really the only way I found
unless you enjoy password administration ad nauseum.
craig@xxxxxxxxxxxx 9/29/2003 10:41:49 PM >>>
I'm bringing up an old thread. :)
We went with the dual Windows 2000 domain / Novell NetWare
integration.
After resetting all of the 1500 passwords, one classroom at a time,
we're
running into some issues. Ugh.
Right now, we're using the Program Neighborhood v7 client on the
workstations with the Novell Integration. Users type in their username
and
password and everything works, sometimes. Often, what Ill see is that
Ill
log into the application set, Ill hit refresh, and then it'll come
back
saying that my credentials are incorrect. As far as I can tell, the
three
Citrix servers are all setup the same. All have the correct registry
settings for NDS integration, etc. What's killing me is that this is
more
of a problem on Mondays, after the servers reboot on Sunday. Once I
fumble
with them on Monday to attempt to get them working, the problem seem to
go
away and works its self out the rest of the week.
We're pretty much done with the project, but this integration is
killing me.
Two user accounts, the password syncs, this Program Neighborhood
problem,
etc. I've got one of our Novell guys coming out tomorrow to help me
out
with the DLU/Zenworks integration to see how well that runs.
One odd thing that I've noticed. If I remember correctly, the
advanced
Citrix FR3 guide states that to have the Microsoft Network
authentication
piece before the Novell NetWare piece in the provider order. I've
found
that in this particular setup I get problems I'm having currently with
Program Neighborhood if I /don't/ have the Novell NetWare piece at the
top
of the list.
Anyway, I'm hoping that this DLU/Zenworks deal can save my behind.
This
login problem is /killing/ me. Any ideas?
-----Original Message-----
From: Craig M. Luchtefeld [mailto:craig@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 7:56 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: Novell Integration
Does anyone have any thoughts about which Novell integration route is
better
-- the ZENWorks/Dynamic Local User route or the simultaneous Windows
2000
domain route with dual accounts?
I've got a school I'm working with, approximately 1500 students with
the
environment holding anywhere from 150-200 concurrent sessions. We're
still
in the 'testing' phase, so we can still go either route for deployment.
My
problem with the Windows 2000/Novell route is that they're going to
have to
create two accounts for every student, we're going to have to
sync/reset all
their passwords, and they're going to have one more point of failure
(if the
DC goes down).
Honestly, I need to read up a bit more on how the ZENWorks deal works,
but
if its creating a dynamic local user, my thought is how are roaming
profiles
going to work?
Anyway, has anyone had the opportunity to take a look at both of these
pieces and examine the advantages/disadvantages to both? From the
Advanced
Guide for FR3, I saw the integration steps for them both, but if I
remember
correctly, it didn't state advantages/disadvantages to either.
Thanks in advance,
Craig
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This problem plauged the client all of yesterday, and today Ive not heard a peep. We're still going to look at the DLU/Zenworks path and if that works, we'll re-do the farm (which shouldnt be a huge deal since all 1 million of their apps are installed already). If not, Im going to have to call up Citrix to try to get some kind of resolution as a single day of every week of not having a reliable way to get to their applications is unacceptable.
Thanks for your input.
Quoting Matt Kosht <matt.kosht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
Are you trying to passthru authentication on clients?
I would get the same error when the users Windows and Novell
ID/Password were somehow different (passed the wrong credentials). Faced with the similar issues DLU was really the only way I found
unless you enjoy password administration ad nauseum.
craig@xxxxxxxxxxxx 9/29/2003 10:41:49 PM >>>
I'm bringing up an old thread. :)
We went with the dual Windows 2000 domain / Novell NetWare integration. After resetting all of the 1500 passwords, one classroom at a time, we're running into some issues. Ugh.
Right now, we're using the Program Neighborhood v7 client on the workstations with the Novell Integration. Users type in their username and password and everything works, sometimes. Often, what Ill see is that Ill log into the application set, Ill hit refresh, and then it'll come back saying that my credentials are incorrect. As far as I can tell, the three Citrix servers are all setup the same. All have the correct registry settings for NDS integration, etc. What's killing me is that this is more of a problem on Mondays, after the servers reboot on Sunday. Once I fumble with them on Monday to attempt to get them working, the problem seem to go away and works its self out the rest of the week.
We're pretty much done with the project, but this integration is killing me. Two user accounts, the password syncs, this Program Neighborhood problem, etc. I've got one of our Novell guys coming out tomorrow to help me out with the DLU/Zenworks integration to see how well that runs.
One odd thing that I've noticed. If I remember correctly, the advanced Citrix FR3 guide states that to have the Microsoft Network authentication piece before the Novell NetWare piece in the provider order. I've found that in this particular setup I get problems I'm having currently with Program Neighborhood if I /don't/ have the Novell NetWare piece at the top of the list.
Anyway, I'm hoping that this DLU/Zenworks deal can save my behind. This
login problem is /killing/ me. Any ideas?
-----Original Message-----
From: Craig M. Luchtefeld [mailto:craig@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 7:56 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: Novell Integration
Does anyone have any thoughts about which Novell integration route is better -- the ZENWorks/Dynamic Local User route or the simultaneous Windows 2000 domain route with dual accounts?
I've got a school I'm working with, approximately 1500 students with the environment holding anywhere from 150-200 concurrent sessions. We're still in the 'testing' phase, so we can still go either route for deployment. My problem with the Windows 2000/Novell route is that they're going to have to create two accounts for every student, we're going to have to sync/reset all their passwords, and they're going to have one more point of failure (if the DC goes down).
Honestly, I need to read up a bit more on how the ZENWorks deal works, but if its creating a dynamic local user, my thought is how are roaming profiles going to work?
Anyway, has anyone had the opportunity to take a look at both of these pieces and examine the advantages/disadvantages to both? From the Advanced Guide for FR3, I saw the integration steps for them both, but if I remember correctly, it didn't state advantages/disadvantages to either.
Thanks in advance,
Craig
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