[THIN] Re: New Citrix install

  • From: "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:04:52 -0700

Ipconfig /flushdns  or eventually the cached entry will expire..

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Callahan, Michael
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:55 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Citrix install

How would you deal with resolver cache on the client side in an RR scenario?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Pitsch [mailto:jepitsch@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:50 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: New Citrix install

Properly configured RR, can be used quite effectively to get around this.
Besides, it's very simple to take something out of RR if it's down for an
extended period of time.

God I love this list!!!  :)

Jeff Pitsch

On 6/29/05, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> How would putting this on an application server help? Again, SMB can't 
> afford redundant CSS 11005s or F5 load balancers...  If WI is down, 
> it's down regardless. Round-robin DNS would cause a user's request to 
> fail 50% of time.
> 
> Again, I don't see how having 2 servers is better than 3 (of which one 
> is a dedicated DC).
> 
> There are other methods for connecting to the farm as a backup.
> 
> Citrix allows for the license server and DS server to be down for a 
> quite sometime...
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Jeff Pitsch
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:11 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: New Citrix install
> 
> Ok, different tactic.  If you put, licenseing, DS, WI, etc on this one 
> server, what happens when it goes down?  The 2 load balanced servers 
> are now meaningless because users cannot access them.  Along with DS 
> being down and everything else.  That is a single point of failure for 
> multiple services.  Never a good idea.
> 
> Jeff Pitsch
> 
> On 6/29/05, Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Huh?
> >
> > Steve Greenberg
> > Thin Client Computing
> > 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
> > Scottsdale, AZ 85262
> > (602) 432-8649
> > www.thinclient.net
> > steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> > On
> Behalf
> > Of Jeff Pitsch
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:32 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: New Citrix install
> >
> > Your serious about that.  A HUGE single point of failure, and that's 
> > good?  Besides being complete overkill.....  It has nothing to do 
> > with resource deprivation, but everything to do with good 
> > infrastructure design.
> >
> > Jeff Pitsch
> >
> > On 6/29/05, Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah, I think some of you guys must be suffering from resource
> deprivation
> > > out their!!  :)
> > >
> > > Not only can it take on these additional roles, but in a pinch it 
> > > could serve apps, then you have N+2 redundancy, how is that bad?
> > >
> > > Steve Greenberg
> > > Thin Client Computing
> > > 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
> > > Scottsdale, AZ 85262
> > > (602) 432-8649
> > > www.thinclient.net
> > > steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> > > On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Braebaum, Neil
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:58 AM
> > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: New Citrix install
> > >
> > > Harsh.
> > >
> > > There's nothing idiotic about this. Perhaps a little on the 
> > > generous side, but there's mileage in dedicating a machine for 
> > > non-TS activity for a Citrix farm - even if the farm is fairly 
> > > small in number of servers.
> > >
> > > The data-collector could also be a WI server, and perhaps host the 
> > > datastore, too.
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of pwalley
> > > > Sent: 29 June 2005 16:55
> > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: New Citrix install
> > > >
> > > > amen to what bob said.
> > > >
> > > > On 6/29/05, Bob <bobmails@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > If I were you... I'd be very nervous about depending on
> > > > this "partner"
> > > > > to install/configure Citrix.  If they can recommend something 
> > > > > as idiotic as a dedicated data-collector for a maximum 8 
> > > > > server farm, they are capable of more dire idiocies.  careful
> > >
> > >
> > >
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