[THIN] Re: New Citrix install

And I would argue, that if they are using WI for client access,
putting WI on the 2 servers and using RR to load balance them is
better than sticking it on one server.  As for the dedicated DC, in a
small environment, it saves them money by using the Meaframe boxes to
their full potential.  Put the ZDC and Backup ZDC roles on each
server, that way if one is bounced the other takes over.  The only
other pieces are license servers (TS/Metaframe) and DS.  Not a whole
lot you can and with DS in a small environment.  As for TS licensing,
I don't see a mention of an OS being used but DC's are the best choice
anyway.  As for citrix licenseing, well, that may be a problem if it's
put on the citirx servers but you do get 30 days to get it back online
so.........I don't know.

Jeff Pitsch

On 6/29/05, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Perhaps, but the HUGE single point of failure is better than installing
> those service on the actual application servers themselves.  Jeez,
> Application servers are often recycled (rebooted).  They can also be
> reimaged as need.  How often in the past have we had something cause a BSOD
> or server to hang and stop responding?  Too often...  Application servers
> should be treated as application servers.  NO DATA should be stored on
> them...  That is good infrastructure design.  That's why having as dedicated
> DC makes sense,  you still have to put the infrastructure services
> somewhere.  SMB generally don't have tons of servers that they can keep
> dumping services it on.
> 
> Joe
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Jeff Pitsch
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:32 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: New Citrix install
> 
> Your serious about that.  A HUGE single point of failure, and that's
> good?  Besides being complete overkill.....  It has nothing to do with
> resource deprivation, but everything to do with good infrastructure
> design.
> 
> Jeff Pitsch
> 
> On 6/29/05, Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, I think some of you guys must be suffering from resource deprivation
> > out their!!  :)
> >
> > Not only can it take on these additional roles, but in a pinch it could
> > serve apps, then you have N+2 redundancy, how is that bad?
> >
> > Steve Greenberg
> > Thin Client Computing
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> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> > Of Braebaum, Neil
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:58 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: New Citrix install
> >
> > Harsh.
> >
> > There's nothing idiotic about this. Perhaps a little on the generous
> > side, but there's mileage in dedicating a machine for non-TS activity
> > for a Citrix farm - even if the farm is fairly small in number of
> > servers.
> >
> > The data-collector could also be a WI server, and perhaps host the
> > datastore, too.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of pwalley
> > > Sent: 29 June 2005 16:55
> > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: New Citrix install
> > >
> > > amen to what bob said.
> > >
> > > On 6/29/05, Bob <bobmails@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > If I were you... I'd be very nervous about depending on
> > > this "partner"
> > > > to install/configure Citrix.  If they can recommend something as
> > > > idiotic as a dedicated data-collector for a maximum 8 server farm,
> > > > they are capable of more dire idiocies.  careful
> >
> >
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