[THIN] Re: New Citrix install
- From: Jeff Pitsch <jepitsch@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 14:03:03 -0400
TTL's
Jeff
On 6/29/05, Callahan, Michael <MichaelCallahan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> How would you deal with resolver cache on the client side in an RR scenario?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Pitsch [mailto:jepitsch@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:50 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: New Citrix install
>
> Properly configured RR, can be used quite effectively to get around this.
> Besides, it's very simple to take something out of RR if it's down for an
> extended period of time.
>
> God I love this list!!! :)
>
> Jeff Pitsch
>
> On 6/29/05, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > How would putting this on an application server help? Again, SMB can't
> > afford redundant CSS 11005s or F5 load balancers... If WI is down,
> > it's down regardless. Round-robin DNS would cause a user's request to
> > fail 50% of time.
> >
> > Again, I don't see how having 2 servers is better than 3 (of which one
> > is a dedicated DC).
> >
> > There are other methods for connecting to the farm as a backup.
> >
> > Citrix allows for the license server and DS server to be down for a
> > quite sometime...
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Jeff Pitsch
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:11 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: New Citrix install
> >
> > Ok, different tactic. If you put, licenseing, DS, WI, etc on this one
> > server, what happens when it goes down? The 2 load balanced servers
> > are now meaningless because users cannot access them. Along with DS
> > being down and everything else. That is a single point of failure for
> > multiple services. Never a good idea.
> >
> > Jeff Pitsch
> >
> > On 6/29/05, Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > Huh?
> > >
> > > Steve Greenberg
> > > Thin Client Computing
> > > 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
> > > Scottsdale, AZ 85262
> > > (602) 432-8649
> > > www.thinclient.net
> > > steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Jeff Pitsch
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:32 AM
> > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: New Citrix install
> > >
> > > Your serious about that. A HUGE single point of failure, and that's
> > > good? Besides being complete overkill..... It has nothing to do
> > > with resource deprivation, but everything to do with good
> > > infrastructure design.
> > >
> > > Jeff Pitsch
> > >
> > > On 6/29/05, Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, I think some of you guys must be suffering from resource
> > deprivation
> > > > out their!! :)
> > > >
> > > > Not only can it take on these additional roles, but in a pinch it
> > > > could serve apps, then you have N+2 redundancy, how is that bad?
> > > >
> > > > Steve Greenberg
> > > > Thin Client Computing
> > > > 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
> > > > Scottsdale, AZ 85262
> > > > (602) 432-8649
> > > > www.thinclient.net
> > > > steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > On
> > > Behalf
> > > > Of Braebaum, Neil
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:58 AM
> > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: New Citrix install
> > > >
> > > > Harsh.
> > > >
> > > > There's nothing idiotic about this. Perhaps a little on the
> > > > generous side, but there's mileage in dedicating a machine for
> > > > non-TS activity for a Citrix farm - even if the farm is fairly
> > > > small in number of servers.
> > > >
> > > > The data-collector could also be a WI server, and perhaps host the
> > > > datastore, too.
> > > >
> > > > Neil
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of pwalley
> > > > > Sent: 29 June 2005 16:55
> > > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: New Citrix install
> > > > >
> > > > > amen to what bob said.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 6/29/05, Bob <bobmails@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > If I were you... I'd be very nervous about depending on
> > > > > this "partner"
> > > > > > to install/configure Citrix. If they can recommend something
> > > > > > as idiotic as a dedicated data-collector for a maximum 8
> > > > > > server farm, they are capable of more dire idiocies. careful
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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