[THIN] Re: New Citrix install

I agree.  I surely don't take it personally.  I take it as a learning
experience.  Sometimes you get so caught up in doing something one
way, that you forget to look at the alternatives.

Jeff

On 6/29/05, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Different opinions, same goals... That's what the list is all about.
> Sharing ideas look for answers.  I just hope no one takes these debates (as
> that what they are) as a personal attack.   It's easy to get passionate
> about an idea/ideal but it's never personal.
> 
> Joe
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Jeff Pitsch
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:50 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: New Citrix install
> 
> Properly configured RR, can be used quite effectively to get around
> this.  Besides, it's very simple to take something out of RR if it's
> down for an extended period of time.
> 
> God I love this list!!!  :)
> 
> Jeff Pitsch
> 
> On 6/29/05, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > How would putting this on an application server help? Again, SMB can't
> > afford redundant CSS 11005s or F5 load balancers...  If WI is down, it's
> > down regardless. Round-robin DNS would cause a user's request to fail 50%
> of
> > time.
> >
> > Again, I don't see how having 2 servers is better than 3 (of which one is
> a
> > dedicated DC).
> >
> > There are other methods for connecting to the farm as a backup.
> >
> > Citrix allows for the license server and DS server to be down for a quite
> > sometime...
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> > Of Jeff Pitsch
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:11 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: New Citrix install
> >
> > Ok, different tactic.  If you put, licenseing, DS, WI, etc on this one
> > server, what happens when it goes down?  The 2 load balanced servers
> > are now meaningless because users cannot access them.  Along with DS
> > being down and everything else.  That is a single point of failure for
> > multiple services.  Never a good idea.
> >
> > Jeff Pitsch
> >
> > On 6/29/05, Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > Huh?
> > >
> > > Steve Greenberg
> > > Thin Client Computing
> > > 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
> > > Scottsdale, AZ 85262
> > > (602) 432-8649
> > > www.thinclient.net
> > > steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Jeff Pitsch
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:32 AM
> > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: New Citrix install
> > >
> > > Your serious about that.  A HUGE single point of failure, and that's
> > > good?  Besides being complete overkill.....  It has nothing to do with
> > > resource deprivation, but everything to do with good infrastructure
> > > design.
> > >
> > > Jeff Pitsch
> > >
> > > On 6/29/05, Steve Greenberg <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, I think some of you guys must be suffering from resource
> > deprivation
> > > > out their!!  :)
> > > >
> > > > Not only can it take on these additional roles, but in a pinch it
> could
> > > > serve apps, then you have N+2 redundancy, how is that bad?
> > > >
> > > > Steve Greenberg
> > > > Thin Client Computing
> > > > 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
> > > > Scottsdale, AZ 85262
> > > > (602) 432-8649
> > > > www.thinclient.net
> > > > steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf
> > > > Of Braebaum, Neil
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:58 AM
> > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: New Citrix install
> > > >
> > > > Harsh.
> > > >
> > > > There's nothing idiotic about this. Perhaps a little on the generous
> > > > side, but there's mileage in dedicating a machine for non-TS activity
> > > > for a Citrix farm - even if the farm is fairly small in number of
> > > > servers.
> > > >
> > > > The data-collector could also be a WI server, and perhaps host the
> > > > datastore, too.
> > > >
> > > > Neil
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of pwalley
> > > > > Sent: 29 June 2005 16:55
> > > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: New Citrix install
> > > > >
> > > > > amen to what bob said.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 6/29/05, Bob <bobmails@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > If I were you... I'd be very nervous about depending on
> > > > > this "partner"
> > > > > > to install/configure Citrix.  If they can recommend something as
> > > > > > idiotic as a dedicated data-collector for a maximum 8 server farm,
> > > > > > they are capable of more dire idiocies.  careful
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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