[TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC Update:
- From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 14:16:48 -0400
There wouldnt have been a WWII because the Kaiser would have won WWI, so
there would not have been a Hitler.
Jerry Silverman
Greentron Inc
4 Newland Ave
Greenville SC 29609
864 232 3889
Fax 271 2080
mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx
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From: "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 9:44 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC Update:
> Speaking of American Indians, If there never was a America who would have
> won WWII? It was American Planes and ships and ammo and troops, that
were
> used to win this war. Hitler would have probably Killed every Indian
when
> he took over the world, and there would be no American Indians today.
> Phillip R Hull STET
> phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> FAX 517--569-3075
> Professional Technicians only
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "walter wood" <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 9:24 AM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC Update:
>
>
> > Yes, just about every flea bag motel and convinence
> > store around here is run by Indians.
> > I used to hear about the "no interest" loans that
> > they got, but the store owner here(American) is a
> > very well connected and political guy, and he says
> > there is no truth to that.
> > What the Indians, and Mexicans really do, is pool
> > their money from a whole family, or even a whole
> > village, to get one person here to buy a business.
> > They live very cheaply, and bring others over as
> > they can.
> > The Mexicans are taking over the restaurant
> > business here.
> > We even have an Italian restaurant here that is
> > owned and staffed by Mexicans.
> > It's very good too.
> > In just the last year, many shops in Gatlinburg
> > Tn.(major tourist trap) have been taken over by the
> > folks from India
> >
> > Go figure!!
> > Whatever the truth is, this fact is putting more
> > and more "Americans" out of work, and out of
> > business.
> > Of course, except for the American Indian(Sioux,
> > Comanche etc.) we are ALL immigrants.
> > The American Indians are the ones with the right to
> > bitch.
> > Walter
> >
> > --- Tel-Tek <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Strange thing Walt. Just when you mentioned
> > > "Folks from India."
> > > These people seem to run their business on a
> > > Cash Basis, or at least a
> > > check.
> > > Ever wonder how a presumed ex-Third World
> > > Country is managing to almost
> > > take over the Hospitality Business in North
> > > America.
> > > Most are paid for with no Bank Loans. (US
> > > Banks).
> > > Here in Canada the Electronic Service
> > > Industry and the Hospitality
> > > Industry is almost saturated with Asians and
> > > India and Pakistan.
> > > Could this be called In-Sourcing?;-)
> > > You have to give them credit, these people do
> > > work hard, to get ahead.
> > >
> > > -Ed-
> > >
> > > Tel-Tek Electronics
> > > Ontario-Canada
> > >
> > > teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "walter wood" <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 10:38 PM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC Update:
> > >
> > >
> > > > I have the opposite idea.
> > > > Since hotel/motel folks buy their sets REAL
> > > > cheap(and with no warranty), I have to do the
> > > cheap
> > > > fix.
> > > > If it fails again, it's their call.
> > > > Fix it or replace it.
> > > > But there are many advantages to getting in the
> > > > loop on commercial repair.
> > > > 1. They usually have many of the same model.
> > > > 2. I've found that all of them pay promptly,
> > > > especially the folks from India.
> > > > 3. They usually have back-ups, and the time
> > > span
> > > > isn't all that important.
> > > > Works for me.
> > > > Walter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Jerome Silverman <greentron@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > I charge more for commercial accounts. They
> > > want
> > > > > to avoid the inconvenience
> > > > > and expense of downtime so I fix the fatal
> > > > > problem, replace marginal parts,
> > > > > fine tune the adjustments, and do a
> > > reasonable
> > > > > burn-in. The consumer mainly
> > > > > wants the fatal problem fixed plus anything
> > > else
> > > > > that doesnt cost extra.
> > > > > Jerry Silverman
> > > > > Greentron Inc
> > > > > 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609
> > > > > 864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080
> > > > > greentron@xxxxxxx
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Intrepid Video Support"
> > > > > <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 9:51 PM
> > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC Update:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > If you need a little more business, I
> > > suggest
> > > > > drafting a letter stating a
> > > > > discount labor rate for
> > > > > > commercial accounts.
> > > > > > I did this and got a good reply from
> > > Howard
> > > > > Johnson's.
> > > > > > They had over ten sets that were down. I
> > > > > repaired all the sets that had
> > > > > that needed repaired, so I
> > > > > > probably won't hear from them for a while,
> > > but
> > > > > the extra income
> > > > > helps...and I got paid at drop off.
> > > > > > Jeff
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Intrepid Video TV/VCR Repair
> > > > > > 263 S Front St, Steelton PA 17113
> > > > > > 717-939-7708; (F) 717-564-4952
> > > > > > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Paul" <dntwntv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 3:29 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC Update:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mando, I think your beginning to get the
> > > > > picture of some of the down sides
> > > > > of becoming an ASC, and the
> > > > > > hoops that you have to jump through. It is
> > > not
> > > > > cost effective in many
> > > > > cases because of the initial outlay
> > > > > > in capital and the length of time it will
> > > take
> > > > > to recover that outlay. The
> > > > > picture may not be as rosy as
> > > > > > you had hoped. Don't mean to throw cold
> > > water,
> > > > > just some observations from
> > > > > an "old" timer. If this
> > > > > > business was what it was 10-15 years ago it
> > > > > might be more inviting. But
> > > > > reality is that too many of us are
> > > > > > struggling just to stay in business and the
> > > > > number that have already
> > > > > closed, is not a pretty picture.
> > > > > > Meanig it may take longer than it used to,
> > > if
> > > > > ever, before it becomes
> > > > > profitable. What they are asking for
> > > > > > is pretty standard. Been there, done that.
> > > I
> > > > > applaud your approach in
> > > > > trying get as much information as
> > > > > > possible, before committing. Keep in mind
> > > you
> > > > > are just another number to
> > > > > them. What ever you decide I wish
> > > > > > you well. Paul
> > > > > > armando guerra <birdie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Don't mean to interfere here
> > > > > but my business insurance is
> > > > > > running at $1900 per yr.Has a 2mil coverage
> > > for
> > > > > > liability among fire and other
> > > coverages.Thats
> > > > > besides my mortgage
> > > > > payment.Thats why I don't want to have
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > buy too much more test equipment.I know
> > > that
> > > > > this is going to sound kind
> > > > > of poorish to the dealer but I
> > > > > > might
> > > > > > just have him talk to the rca rep and see
> > > if we
> > > > > can't get away with just
> > > > > what I have now.I don't mind the
> > > > > > $300. for the service lit.Also,another
> > > question
> > > > > is? If I do become the rca
> > > > > sc,will I also be required to
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > the wally-world sets too or do they ship
> > > them
> > > > > out for repairs?I don't want
> > > > > to get over my head on this
> > > > > > matter.I like $$$$ but I also want to keep
> > > my
> > > > > health.Thanks for all the
> > > > > proffesional feedback that I have
> > > > > > received.
> > > > > > Mando
> > > > > > Birdie's TV & Electronics
> > > > > > Casa Grande,AZ
> > > > > > PS RCA also wants pictures of my work
> > > area,pix
> > > > > of my test equipment,and
> > > > > store front.
> > > > > > Also, the sitting area for customers.I
> > > wonder
> > > > > if they are confusing my
> > > > > shop with a burger king being that
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > also want a sitting area.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Intrepid Video Support wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Doug,
> > > > > > > Is that including your building?
> > > > > > > I rent, so this is $1 Mill liability, $2
> > > > > aggregate and something like
> > > > > $50k for property, mine and
> > > > > > > customers.
> > > > > > > Jeff
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Intrepid Video TV/VCR Repair
> > > > > > > 263 S Front St, Steelton PA 17113
> > > > > > > 717-939-7708; (F) 717-564-4952
> > > > > > > www.intrepid-video.com
> > > www.tech-repair.net
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Doug Keller"
> > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 7:12 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC Update:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > $500??????? Mine is now almost $1500 a
> > > year.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Doug Keller
> > > > > > > Wis-Kel Electronics
> > > > > > > 101 Freeland Ave.
> > > > > > > Terra Alta, WV
> > > > > > > USA 26764
> > > > > > > dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org
> > > > > > > "Learn from the mistakes of others,
> > > because
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > won't live long enough to make them all
> > > > > yourself"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Intrepid Video Support wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >If you have a store front, you need
> > > > > liability...what if someone fell
> > > > > inside your store, or you got
> > > > > > robbed
> > > > > > > >and all the repaired units were stolen,
> > > or
> > > > > worse yet, you had a fire?
> > > > > > > >At $500 a year, the peace of mind is
> > > well
> > > > > worth it.
> > > > > > > >Jeff
> > > > > > > >--
> > > > > > > >Intrepid Video TV/VCR Repair
> > > > > > > >263 S Front St, Steelton PA 17113
> > > > > > > >717-939-7708; (F) 717-564-4952
> > > > > > > >www.intrepid-video.com
> > > www.tech-repair.net
> > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > >From: "Technotronic Dimensions"
> > > > > > > >To:
> > > > > > > >Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 12:15 PM
> > > > > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC
> > > Update:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Doug:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dunno bout that. These Larger ones Like
> > > RCA
> > > > > and NAP seem to have
> > > > > > > >too much bureaucratic overhead going on
> > > to
> > > > > make any exceptions. RCA
> > > > > wants
> > > > > > > >you to own just about every type of Test
> > > > > Equipment that out there
> > > > > before you
> > > > > > > >can even submit the Application. Like
> > > > > someone else wrote, its mainly
> > > > > because
> > > > > > > >they want you to do all the 1st time
> > > > > Failures which is not Cost
> > > > > Effective at
> > > > > > > >all......especially if you just took out
> > > a
> > > > > loan for all the Test
> > > > > Equipment
> > > > > > > >they want you to have, you wind up
> > > working
> > > > > for free alot of the time,
> > > > > and if
> > > > > > > >you have a storefront with overhead,
> > > good
> > > > > luck !
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Another interesting one is Samsung.
> > > Only
> > > > > thing Stopping me is the
> > > > > > > >Manditory Insurance. Yet another Expense
> > > we
> > > > > are to bear. Having that
> > > > > > > >Conflicts with the Idea that you are a
> > > > > Skilled and Professional
> > > > > Servicer. I
> > > > > > > >suppose there are some shops who it
> > > would
> > > > > come in handy if they are
> > > > > scared
> > > > > > > >of making a huge Blunder on a repair,
> > > but I
> > > > > never will take a Job if I
> > > > > feel
> > > > > > > >I cannot do it right in the 1st Place.
> > > Some
> > > > > of the larger cities have a
> > > > > Law
> > > > > > > >that requires Insurance too. This is one
> > > of
> > > > > the idiocy ideas that the
> > > > > rest
> > > > > > > >of the World must adopt the methods of
> > > Large
> > > > > Cities, because some
> > > > > people
> > > > > > > >there have plundered or Scammed people
> > > in
> > > > > the past. No one gets a Fresh
> > > > > > > >Start because of what some moron did
> > > back in
> > > > > X,Y,Z.....its absurd, and
> > > > > now
> > > > > > > >you begin to see what these Stupid Laws
> > > are
> > > > > doing to the Industries
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > >were intended to protect. They were
> > > Short
> > > > > Term Solutions at best.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Steve Hearns
> > > > > > > >Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA]
> > > > > > > >WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM
> > > > > > > >1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free -
> > > US
> > > > > Only)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > >From: "Doug Keller"
> > > > > > > >To:
> > > > > > > >Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 11:54 AM
> > > > > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA ASC
> > > Update:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Don't worry about it. When they get
> > > > > desparate enough for servicers,
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > >will relax their requirements. Too many
> > > > > shops are closing their doors.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Doug Keller
> > > > > > > >Wis-Kel Electronics
> > > > > > > >101 Freeland Ave.
> > > > > > > >Terra Alta, WV
> > > > > > > >USA 26764
> > > > > > > >dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > >dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > >http://www.tech-assist.org
> > > > > > > >"Learn from the mistakes of others,
> > > because
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > >won't live long enough to make them all
> > > > > yourself"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >armando guerra wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>Thanks to all the reply's on becoming
> > > an
> > > > > rca asc.I downloaded the
> > > > > > > >>app.from the rca website and there are
> > > > > quite a few
> > > > > > > >>requirements,i.e.chipper-check which I
> > > > > don't have and just a few more
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > >>far as equipment is concerned.I talked
> > > to a
> > > > > rca rep.and he mentioned
> > > > > > > >>that the new chipper-check is now going
> > > to
> > > > > cost about $500.00.Also,the
> > > > > > > >>service lit. is about
> > > $300.00.yearly.The
> > > > > thing that has me worried is
> > > > > > > >>that he say's that I have to buy all
> > > the
> > > > > parts myself and that they
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > >>reinburse me at the wholesale price
> > > when I
> > > > > file the claim.What about
> > > > > if
> > > > > > > >>the claim is rejected for some reason.I
> > > get
> > > > > stuck with all this
> > > > > expense.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>How about the new HD parts.Can you
> > > imagine
> > > > > if I have 3 or 4 sets in
> > > > > here
> > > > > > > >>and I have to order parts for all of
> > > them.I
> > > > > hear most of the repairs
> > > > > > > >>will be board replacement only.
> > > > > > > >>I think that I am going to think about
> > > all
> > > > > this for a awhile yet
> > > > > before
> > > > > > > >>I decide.
> > > > > > > >>Mando
> > > > > > > >>Birdie's TV & Electronics
> > > > > > > >>Casa Grande,AZ
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
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