Yes, safety first. People recording their launches from the line probably don’t want to hear the buzzing of the multirotor in their video. Or maybe they don’t care. But I agree that it should be on a case by case basis. I would love to record my launch from about 100 feet. Or looking down from 500 feet (or higher) to see if a sonic boom could be recorded. That means that the sky is not clear though. So any falling pieces and parts would be the responsibility of the owner of the multirotor and possibly others (LCO/RSO). I am not an attorney nor do I play one on tv. Frequencies – most use 2.4ghz and 5.8ghz. (think cordless phone and wireless network frequencies) Some older units may be 72mhz. I doubt any multirotors are using the HAM band. Having said that – I love them. I have 3 quad copters, 2 helis, 4 rc planes and 2 rc jets, and lots of stuff still in the box. Love stuff that flies. Luckily my wife doesn’t recognize them and seldom goes in my shop so she thinks I only have 1 of each (and a “couple” rockets). Anyway, pre-planning is key. Rocketeers need to specify if they don’t want one in the air and not be shy about speaking up. And ask a multi-rotor owner if they do want one up. Final decision is on the LCO of course. Rob From: tccrockets-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tccrockets-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James Dougherty Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:07 AM To: tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tccrockets] Re: UAVs at TCC launches The RSO/LCO makes the call Gene had John shutdown his Heli before launch so he could hear his test burn ... I would have the same concern That's the other concern, noise - you won't hear rockets launching with big birds flying so their are major safety concerns besides the obvious freq planning problems ... Let's coordinate before launches (we can have an RC pre-meeting if needed) FYI - in a lot of cases RC flying is in direct conflict with the TRA safety code ... Starting with " the sky is clear ..." Sent from my iPhone On May 25, 2014, at 8:23 AM, "Robert " <mrairobert@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I vote Larry Taylor in as the UAV rulemaker.... I suggest something like this: No UAVs over flight line while rockets are going to or on pad unless they are "assisting" a rocketeer as verified by a remark on the flight card. I would define the flight line as, "The area between the access/parking road and the away cell." I think this will allow lots of access while preserving the primary goal of launching rockets. Looks like I got three cents left.... Robert On Sat, 24 May 2014 21:44:29 -0700, Richard King <drrbk@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: At DA this year, we saw something different than in the past. Call them what you will – quad copters, UAVs, drones, RC doo-dads – there were several instances where as the LCO, I was asked if I was OK with the little buggers hovering near the flight line while big projects were about to launch. First, let me say that in general, I think these things are WAY COOL! (yes, I want one very badly and am certain that it’s only a matter of time....). Secondly, the worst case scenario is the drone got too close to a rocket going up and there was contact. I will place my bet on the rocket. While I would gladly claim victory in such a situation, I can appreciate that not every rocketeer could feel the same way. I hate adding rules to things, but was just thinking about where this could take us. Keeping drones at the flight line seemed acceptable enough for me. But let’s think about this. Remember back in the day when we had the “danger cam” video camera set up near the launch pad to capture all the blast and didn’t really care if the camera (some old rig) got nailed? Thought that was cool? These drones could really bring the drama!!! Did I mention I want one? I think I heard my wife say it was OK..... or was it OK to move out..... anyway, I would like to get some input about this issue before someone throws a fit or the owner of a drone violates someone else’s boundaries. Richard King _____ <http://www.avast.com/> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com/> protection is active.