[tccrockets] Re: UAVs at TCC launches
- From: Cliff Sojourner <cls@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 13:04:19 -0700
Personally I dislike the noise and would prefer to hear the LCO and rockets
without interference. Cliff
On May 25, 2014 12:35:58 PM PDT, Rob Diehl <rwdiehl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>Yes, safety first.
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>People recording their launches from the line probably don’t want to
>hear the buzzing of the multirotor in their video. Or maybe they don’t
>care. But I agree that it should be on a case by case basis. I would
>love to record my launch from about 100 feet. Or looking down from 500
>feet (or higher) to see if a sonic boom could be recorded. That means
>that the sky is not clear though. So any falling pieces and parts
>would be the responsibility of the owner of the multirotor and possibly
>others (LCO/RSO). I am not an attorney nor do I play one on tv.
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>Frequencies – most use 2.4ghz and 5.8ghz. (think cordless phone and
>wireless network frequencies) Some older units may be 72mhz. I doubt
>any multirotors are using the HAM band.
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>Having said that – I love them.
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>I have 3 quad copters, 2 helis, 4 rc planes and 2 rc jets, and lots of
>stuff still in the box. Love stuff that flies. Luckily my wife
>doesn’t recognize them and seldom goes in my shop so she thinks I only
>have 1 of each (and a “couple” rockets).
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>Anyway, pre-planning is key. Rocketeers need to specify if they don’t
>want one in the air and not be shy about speaking up. And ask a
>multi-rotor owner if they do want one up. Final decision is on the LCO
>of course.
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>Rob
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>From: tccrockets-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:tccrockets-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James Dougherty
>Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:07 AM
>To: tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [tccrockets] Re: UAVs at TCC launches
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>The RSO/LCO makes the call
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>Gene had John shutdown his Heli before launch so he could hear his test
>burn ... I would have the same concern
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>That's the other concern, noise - you won't hear rockets launching with
>big birds flying so their are major safety concerns besides the obvious
>freq planning problems ...
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>Let's coordinate before launches (we can have an RC pre-meeting if
>needed)
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>FYI - in a lot of cases RC flying is in direct conflict with the TRA
>safety code ... Starting with " the sky is clear ..."
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>Sent from my iPhone
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>On May 25, 2014, at 8:23 AM, "Robert " <mrairobert@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>I vote Larry Taylor in as the UAV rulemaker....
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>I suggest something like this:
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>No UAVs over flight line while rockets are going to or on pad unless
>they are "assisting" a rocketeer as verified by a remark on the flight
>card. I would define the flight line as, "The area between the
>access/parking road and the away cell."
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>I think this will allow lots of access while preserving the primary
>goal of launching rockets.
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>Looks like I got three cents left....
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>Robert
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>On Sat, 24 May 2014 21:44:29 -0700, Richard King <drrbk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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>At DA this year, we saw something different than in the past. Call
>them what you will – quad copters, UAVs, drones, RC doo-dads – there
>were several instances where as the LCO, I was asked if I was OK with
>the little buggers hovering near the flight line while big projects
>were about to launch.
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>First, let me say that in general, I think these things are WAY COOL!
>(yes, I want one very badly and am certain that it’s only a matter of
>time....).
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>Secondly, the worst case scenario is the drone got too close to a
>rocket going up and there was contact. I will place my bet on the
>rocket. While I would gladly claim victory in such a situation, I can
>appreciate that not every rocketeer could feel the same way.
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>I hate adding rules to things, but was just thinking about where this
>could take us. Keeping drones at the flight line seemed acceptable
>enough for me. But let’s think about this. Remember back in the day
>when we had the “danger cam” video camera set up near the launch pad to
>capture all the blast and didn’t really care if the camera (some old
>rig) got nailed? Thought that was cool? These drones could really
>bring the drama!!! Did I mention I want one? I think I heard my wife
>say it was OK..... or was it OK to move out..... anyway, I would like
>to get some input about this issue before someone throws a fit or the
>owner of a drone violates someone else’s boundaries.
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>Richard King
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