[tabi] Re: my object to Nova 2010

  • From: "Easy Talk" <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:59:34 -0500

William,, You are certainly entitled to your opinion but don't bash others that 
differ from yours.  All people can think for them selves and this is America 
where we are suppose to have freedom of speech.  I don't know if you have ever 
been hit by a car or not but if you have you should understand the importance 
of safety.  Also the city is responsible for our safety, that is why we have 
police.  I can assure you they have a risk management department that only 
deals with liability.

The city is coming to your meetings because they are mandated to have public 
hearings and your remark about being trouble makers is absolutely ridiculous 
and if you are right about that then the people with the city that think that 
shouldn't have the jobs they do.  Just because someone doesn't agree with your 
nice guy approached doesn't make them a trouble maker.  Just think if that was 
the attitude during the civil rights movement.  We would just put people in 
jail for disturbing the peace and label them as trouble makers.  it really 
irritates me that you have this attitude and are the president of TCB.  
Although I don't agree with your way of thinking I haven't publically called 
you a trouble maker.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: blindwilly 
  To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 7:57 AM
  Subject: [tabi] Re: my object to Nova 2010


  Did you ever think that the city commissioners can never guarantee your 
safety.   Even sighted pedestrians and drivers have accidents.   There are only 
two audible crossings now, but they are going to try to address the rest and we 
will never get there if we don't start.   Your refusal to consider or 
compromise means we will never get any where.   

  We are not helpless and we don't need the entire world to change just to 
guarantee our safety.   I know who walks the streets and who never sets foot on 
the sidewalk.   I am tired of this bashing that is going to build a wall 
between us and them.   We need to work with them or they will do what they want 
and we will be labeled as trouble makers and we will be left behind, because 
they are the powerful majority and we are not.

  I have been trying to be reasonable and they are listening to us by coming to 
our TCB meeting and to the Light House, but if we go in there with guns 
blazing, then we are going to loose our position of reason.


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Chip Orange 
    To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 11:54 AM
    Subject: [tabi] my object to Nova 2010

    hi all,

    I spoke with a StarMetro planner yesterday, and he said only 2 
intersections of the possible 41 proposed for transfer points, currently have 
audible signals. (I think Lynn did tell us that).

    perhaps, just perhaps, they'll be able to add 10, even 20, in the next 
year, but by no means all of them will get audible signals.

    the point I made to him, and the one I intend to make to the city 
commission unless there is a dramatic change in the plan, is that no 
intersection, even with an audible signal, is safe for a blind person to cross. 
audible signals only make it somewhat safer, but many of our local blind 
residents can testify about being hit.   I don't think even our best, most 
skillful, independent travelers, can say that crossing an intersection such as 
many of those proposed by StarMetro is safe; and, a number of our blind 
residents do not fall into the class of our "most skillful" independent 

    I intend to urge the city commission to deny the entire plan until the 
safety of disable riders can be assured by never requiring a transfer through 
an intersection; StarMetro has got to be forced to come up with another way to 
handle transfers.

    I know others of you have other objections to the plan, and I've heard and 
agree with a lot of them, but this is to me, the single really good one, which 
is good enough to warrant the city commission stopping implementation until it 
is worked out.

    I do support other objections which have been raised, including the one I 
just mentioned that with all the bus stops moving to new locations, they are 
going to be hard to find, and that the routes and the location of stops require 
a lot of walking at times, which itself is also unsafe.  but when I write the 
commission after the plan is submitted to them, I am only going to focus on the 
safety issue, as I think it's the most important, and I don't want to overwhelm 
them in my letter with les important objections.

    I hope all of you will consider writing to the city commission, but not 
until the plan has been submitted to them.  any letters before then are 
evidently just forwarded to StarMetro, without engaging the commissioners' 




    Chip Orange
    Database Administrator
    Florida Public Service Commission

    (850) 413-6314

     (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not 
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)

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