[tabi] Re: my object to Nova 2010

  • From: "Charles Atkins" <catkins@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:13:33 -0500

or, if one is blind and not confident and would rather have a human with a nine 
to five on the corner to help them cross over the highway?

Very complicated but,

not impossible to solve!

Not to worry!

It is gona be allright after while friends!


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lynn Evans 
  To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 1:26 PM
  Subject: [tabi] Re: my object to Nova 2010


  What we all know we all take responsibility for ourselves as long as we are 
mentally competent and over 18. 

  If I have a medical condition and need the power to run a respirator, 
  how about that?  

  Life gets complicated. 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Easy Talk 
    To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:59 AM
    Subject: [tabi] Re: my object to Nova 2010


    Lynn,  If your water or electricity goes out, it won't put you in the 
hospital or grave yard.

    In civil law suites, there is a thing called culpability which places part 
of the blame on the defendant if they didn't take necessary action to prevent 
something from happening.

    Robert
    Robert

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Lynn Evans 
      To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 7:20 PM
      Subject: [tabi] Re: my object to Nova 2010


      You are correct in saying there are no guarantees when it comes to life. 
it is a crap shoot. A person steps out boldly from the curb of life with the 
mobility skills we have and takes their chances. You are asking for a guarantee 
for city services? You mean like the electricity want never go out? The water 
will never be turned off? The trash will always be picked up?


      Look at the changes Star Metro has made to their plan so far. We asked 
for a route description and they gave it to us. Robert asked for the Village 
Square change and they did that. 

      Let us not do a "Blackjack" here and tell Star metro if they want play by 
our rules then we will not play,. the intersections where the transfer points 
are, need to be made as safe as humanly possible for EVERYONE. This is what we 
need to tell the city commission. 

      It scares me to tell anyone, what I can't do. That puts me in a 
vulnerable position in their eyes.  

      We need to work with Star Metro or we are going to be left on the curb as 
the bus passes us by. 


        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Easy Talk 
        To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 2:40 PM
        Subject: [tabi] Re: my object to Nova 2010


        Chip,  After much consideration and Soule searching, I am with you 100 
percent.  I am one who has been hit at an audible crossing. I am certainly for 
decentralization but more work needs to be done and as Heather said Star Metro 
does transportation/buses not Sidewalks, Audible signals or Police Safety.  
They can only educate but it is up to other departments to do there part and so 
far there are no guarantees.

        Robert

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Chip Orange 
          To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 11:54 AM
          Subject: [tabi] my object to Nova 2010


          hi all,

          I spoke with a StarMetro planner yesterday, and he said only 2 
intersections of the possible 41 proposed for transfer points, currently have 
audible signals. (I think Lynn did tell us that).



          perhaps, just perhaps, they'll be able to add 10, even 20, in the 
next year, but by no means all of them will get audible signals.

          the point I made to him, and the one I intend to make to the city 
commission unless there is a dramatic change in the plan, is that no 
intersection, even with an audible signal, is safe for a blind person to cross. 
audible signals only make it somewhat safer, but many of our local blind 
residents can testify about being hit.   I don't think even our best, most 
skillful, independent travelers, can say that crossing an intersection such as 
many of those proposed by StarMetro is safe; and, a number of our blind 
residents do not fall into the class of our "most skillful" independent 
travelers.





          I intend to urge the city commission to deny the entire plan until 
the safety of disable riders can be assured by never requiring a transfer 
through an intersection; StarMetro has got to be forced to come up with another 
way to handle transfers.

          I know others of you have other objections to the plan, and I've 
heard and agree with a lot of them, but this is to me, the single really good 
one, which is good enough to warrant the city commission stopping 
implementation until it is worked out.



          I do support other objections which have been raised, including the 
one I just mentioned that with all the bus stops moving to new locations, they 
are going to be hard to find, and that the routes and the location of stops 
require a lot of walking at times, which itself is also unsafe.  but when I 
write the commission after the plan is submitted to them, I am only going to 
focus on the safety issue, as I think it's the most important, and I don't want 
to overwhelm them in my letter with les important objections.



          I hope all of you will consider writing to the city commission, but 
not until the plan has been submitted to them.  any letters before then are 
evidently just forwarded to StarMetro, without engaging the commissioners' 
attention.



          thanks.





          Chip






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          Chip Orange
          Database Administrator
          Florida Public Service Commission

          Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
          (850) 413-6314

           (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not 
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)


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