[tabi] Re: my object to Nova 2010
- From: "Easy Talk" <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:59:34 -0500
William,, You are certainly entitled to your opinion but don't bash others that
differ from yours. All people can think for them selves and this is America
where we are suppose to have freedom of speech. I don't know if you have ever
been hit by a car or not but if you have you should understand the importance
of safety. Also the city is responsible for our safety, that is why we have
police. I can assure you they have a risk management department that only
deals with liability.
The city is coming to your meetings because they are mandated to have public
hearings and your remark about being trouble makers is absolutely ridiculous
and if you are right about that then the people with the city that think that
shouldn't have the jobs they do. Just because someone doesn't agree with your
nice guy approached doesn't make them a trouble maker. Just think if that was
the attitude during the civil rights movement. We would just put people in
jail for disturbing the peace and label them as trouble makers. it really
irritates me that you have this attitude and are the president of TCB.
Although I don't agree with your way of thinking I haven't publically called
you a trouble maker.
Robert
----- Original Message -----
From: blindwilly
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 7:57 AM
Subject: [tabi] Re: my object to Nova 2010
Chip,
Did you ever think that the city commissioners can never guarantee your
safety. Even sighted pedestrians and drivers have accidents. There are only
two audible crossings now, but they are going to try to address the rest and we
will never get there if we don't start. Your refusal to consider or
compromise means we will never get any where.
We are not helpless and we don't need the entire world to change just to
guarantee our safety. I know who walks the streets and who never sets foot on
the sidewalk. I am tired of this bashing that is going to build a wall
between us and them. We need to work with them or they will do what they want
and we will be labeled as trouble makers and we will be left behind, because
they are the powerful majority and we are not.
I have been trying to be reasonable and they are listening to us by coming to
our TCB meeting and to the Light House, but if we go in there with guns
blazing, then we are going to loose our position of reason.
William
----- Original Message -----
From: Chip Orange
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 11:54 AM
Subject: [tabi] my object to Nova 2010
hi all,
I spoke with a StarMetro planner yesterday, and he said only 2
intersections of the possible 41 proposed for transfer points, currently have
audible signals. (I think Lynn did tell us that).
perhaps, just perhaps, they'll be able to add 10, even 20, in the next
year, but by no means all of them will get audible signals.
the point I made to him, and the one I intend to make to the city
commission unless there is a dramatic change in the plan, is that no
intersection, even with an audible signal, is safe for a blind person to cross.
audible signals only make it somewhat safer, but many of our local blind
residents can testify about being hit. I don't think even our best, most
skillful, independent travelers, can say that crossing an intersection such as
many of those proposed by StarMetro is safe; and, a number of our blind
residents do not fall into the class of our "most skillful" independent
travelers.
I intend to urge the city commission to deny the entire plan until the
safety of disable riders can be assured by never requiring a transfer through
an intersection; StarMetro has got to be forced to come up with another way to
handle transfers.
I know others of you have other objections to the plan, and I've heard and
agree with a lot of them, but this is to me, the single really good one, which
is good enough to warrant the city commission stopping implementation until it
is worked out.
I do support other objections which have been raised, including the one I
just mentioned that with all the bus stops moving to new locations, they are
going to be hard to find, and that the routes and the location of stops require
a lot of walking at times, which itself is also unsafe. but when I write the
commission after the plan is submitted to them, I am only going to focus on the
safety issue, as I think it's the most important, and I don't want to overwhelm
them in my letter with les important objections.
I hope all of you will consider writing to the city commission, but not
until the plan has been submitted to them. any letters before then are
evidently just forwarded to StarMetro, without engaging the commissioners'
attention.
thanks.
Chip
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Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission
Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(850) 413-6314
(Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
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