[tabi] Re: my object to Nova 2010
- From: "Darla J. Rogers" <djrogers0628@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:40:04 -0500
Good grief; are we serious about these discussions or not?
I, for one, would love not to need Dial-a-Ride, as once you learn the routes
and scheduling, you have more flexibility, but those conditions don't exist yet.
Darla
----- Original Message -----
From: blindwilly
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:15 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: my object to Nova 2010
Charles,
don't worry, be happy. It sounds good to me and I'll have another one
please.
Willy Dog
----- Original Message -----
From: Charles Atkins
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:13 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: my object to Nova 2010
or, if one is blind and not confident and would rather have a human with a
nine to five on the corner to help them cross over the highway?
Very complicated but,
not impossible to solve!
Not to worry!
It is gona be allright after while friends!
----- Original Message -----
From: Lynn Evans
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 1:26 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: my object to Nova 2010
What we all know we all take responsibility for ourselves as long as we
are mentally competent and over 18.
If I have a medical condition and need the power to run a respirator,
how about that?
Life gets complicated.
----- Original Message -----
From: Easy Talk
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:59 AM
Subject: [tabi] Re: my object to Nova 2010
Lynn, If your water or electricity goes out, it won't put you in the
hospital or grave yard.
In civil law suites, there is a thing called culpability which places
part of the blame on the defendant if they didn't take necessary action to
prevent something from happening.
Robert
Robert
----- Original Message -----
From: Lynn Evans
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 7:20 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: my object to Nova 2010
You are correct in saying there are no guarantees when it comes to
life. it is a crap shoot. A person steps out boldly from the curb of life with
the mobility skills we have and takes their chances. You are asking for a
guarantee for city services? You mean like the electricity want never go out?
The water will never be turned off? The trash will always be picked up?
Look at the changes Star Metro has made to their plan so far. We
asked for a route description and they gave it to us. Robert asked for the
Village Square change and they did that.
Let us not do a "Blackjack" here and tell Star metro if they want
play by our rules then we will not play,. the intersections where the transfer
points are, need to be made as safe as humanly possible for EVERYONE. This is
what we need to tell the city commission.
It scares me to tell anyone, what I can't do. That puts me in a
vulnerable position in their eyes.
We need to work with Star Metro or we are going to be left on the
curb as the bus passes us by.
----- Original Message -----
From: Easy Talk
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 2:40 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: my object to Nova 2010
Chip, After much consideration and Soule searching, I am with you
100 percent. I am one who has been hit at an audible crossing. I am certainly
for decentralization but more work needs to be done and as Heather said Star
Metro does transportation/buses not Sidewalks, Audible signals or Police
Safety. They can only educate but it is up to other departments to do there
part and so far there are no guarantees.
Robert
----- Original Message -----
From: Chip Orange
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 11:54 AM
Subject: [tabi] my object to Nova 2010
hi all,
I spoke with a StarMetro planner yesterday, and he said only 2
intersections of the possible 41 proposed for transfer points, currently have
audible signals. (I think Lynn did tell us that).
perhaps, just perhaps, they'll be able to add 10, even 20, in the
next year, but by no means all of them will get audible signals.
the point I made to him, and the one I intend to make to the city
commission unless there is a dramatic change in the plan, is that no
intersection, even with an audible signal, is safe for a blind person to cross.
audible signals only make it somewhat safer, but many of our local blind
residents can testify about being hit. I don't think even our best, most
skillful, independent travelers, can say that crossing an intersection such as
many of those proposed by StarMetro is safe; and, a number of our blind
residents do not fall into the class of our "most skillful" independent
travelers.
I intend to urge the city commission to deny the entire plan
until the safety of disable riders can be assured by never requiring a transfer
through an intersection; StarMetro has got to be forced to come up with another
way to handle transfers.
I know others of you have other objections to the plan, and I've
heard and agree with a lot of them, but this is to me, the single really good
one, which is good enough to warrant the city commission stopping
implementation until it is worked out.
I do support other objections which have been raised, including
the one I just mentioned that with all the bus stops moving to new locations,
they are going to be hard to find, and that the routes and the location of
stops require a lot of walking at times, which itself is also unsafe. but when
I write the commission after the plan is submitted to them, I am only going to
focus on the safety issue, as I think it's the most important, and I don't want
to overwhelm them in my letter with les important objections.
I hope all of you will consider writing to the city commission,
but not until the plan has been submitted to them. any letters before then are
evidently just forwarded to StarMetro, without engaging the commissioners'
attention.
thanks.
Chip
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Chip Orange
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Florida Public Service Commission
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