[tabi] Re: braille signage at all star stops
- From: "Matt Presnell" <matt.from.florida@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:44:15 -0400
Well, if they been taking input but not getting any than it no one blame but
the blind community that lives and uses the service for not getting the
input to them. If this is the fact! JSMT
Matt
Matt.from.florida@xxxxxxxxx
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Of mccaulo@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:38 PM
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Subject: [tabi] Re: braille signage at all star stops
'They' have been taking input for more than 2 years... and not getting any
except from a few folks. Decisions had to be made and they were made by the
folks at StarMetro and the ones that could be bothered to respond to
requests for input. How many of the folks who have been complaining about
the decisions that were made actually use the fixed route bus system on a
regular basis, anyway?
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Presnell <matt.from.florida@xxxxxxxxx>
To: tabi <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wed, Oct 16, 2013 5:00 pm
Subject: [tabi] Re: braille signage at all star stops
Are these people taking input from anyone or just going off in left field on
their own hoping things come out right!
Matt
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From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Easy Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 4:21 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: braille signage at all star stops
Well just wait until they start putting the double buddy seats on the
sign
poles, most likely you will stick your hand in some one's face, that is
if
you can even find the stop since there is no tactile warning/identifier
It's
kind of like a gooey in the middle of the ocean and telling a blind
person
to find it.
Robert
.
Robert
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Presnell" <matt.from.florida@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:58 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: braille signage at all star stops
>I not a brail reader myself but I tend to agree with Chip on this it
would
> have made since to have the brail on the sign when you came up to the
sign
> you touch the top of the sign and read left to right rather than have
to
> turn sideways and then read left to right. No sighted person reads
like
> that
> . they read from the top to the bottom not from the side bottom to
the
> side
> top. Yes it would have made since to have it oriented in the correct
> position! They did not have to turn the sign but the writing of the
brail.
> If not the writing of the brail then the signed itself. JST
>
>
> Matt
> Matt.from.florida@xxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Adam Gaffney
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:35 PM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: braille signage at all star stops
>
> Hi, I've never seen Braille oriented at all vertically and if I saw
this
> and didn't know ahead of time I might not even recognize it as
Braille.
> Just my thoughts on this. Besides, it's not like we are reading a
novel
> like that.
> --
> "The people may be made to follow a path of action, but they may not
be
> made
> to understand it."
>
> - Confucius ca. 480 B.C.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chip and Allie Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 12:14 PM
> Subject: [tabi] Re: braille signage at all star stops
>
>
>> Hi Lynn,
>>
>> The sinage being parallel to the pole is obvious, and was not what I
>> objected to.
>>
>> A sighted person however would have rotated each individual letter 90
>> degrees, and I feel the braille should have been done the same, so
that a
>> person would need need to rotate their entire hand/arm/wrist in
order to
>> read each letter.
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Lynn Evans
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:08 PM
>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [tabi] Re: braille signage at all star stops
>>
>> When this process began Star Metro ran it through the alphabet soup
of A
>> B
>
>> C
>> and N F B along with the Lighthouse of the Big Bend. Star Metro had
>> several
>> examples of what the signage would eventually look like for anyone
>> interested to examine.
>>
>> The signage has to be parallel with the pole. If the signage was at
>> right
>> angle people would walk into the braille sign causing damage to the
sign
>> or
>> themselves.
>>
>> News 27 this evening reported the signage will be distributed first
to
>> the
>> transfer points then then throughout the rest of the system.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chip Orange
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:39 AM
>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [tabi] Re: braille signage at all star stops
>>
>> It's good there will be braille signs.
>>
>> Unfortunately, someone made the decision to rotate the entire line of
>> characters 90 degrees so that it runs "down" the pole, making it very
>> difficult to read (especially so for anyone with the slightest of
>> mobility
>> impairments, as you must rotate your wrist/arm 90 degrees). In my
>> opinion
>> it would have been much better to rotate each letter 90 degrees (as
is
>> commonly done with printed signs) and stack the letters one beneath
the
>> other.
>>
>> If you want to see the difficulty I'm speaking of, just take a
braille
>> book
>> or page and hold it up to a wall 4 or 5 feet off of the ground, and
>> rotated
>> 90 degrees so that you read the braille from top to bottom.
>> Then try and read a line with one hand and you'll see the unnatural
>> position/motion required to read it.
>>
>> Chip
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Easy Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:25 AM
>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [tabi] Re: braille signage at all star stops
>>
>> There is an article about the signs on wctv, there web site is
wctv.tv
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lynn Evans" <austin.evans60@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:22 PM
>> Subject: [tabi] braille signage at all star stops
>>
>>
>>> braille sign signage star metro has started placing braille signage
>> at
>>> all bus stopss starting today.
>>>
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