[tabi] Re: braille signage at all star stops

  • From: mccaulo@xxxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:38:16 -0400 (EDT)

'They' have been taking input for more than 2 years... and not getting any except from a few folks. Decisions had to be made and they were made by the folks at StarMetro and the ones that could be bothered to respond to requests for input. How many of the folks who have been complaining about the decisions that were made actually use the fixed route bus system on a regular basis, anyway?


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Presnell <matt.from.florida@xxxxxxxxx>
To: tabi <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wed, Oct 16, 2013 5:00 pm
Subject: [tabi] Re: braille signage  at all  star stops

Are these people taking input from anyone or just going off in left field on
their own hoping things come out right!


Matt
Matt.from.florida@xxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Easy Talk
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 4:21 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: braille signage at all star stops

Well just wait until they start putting the double buddy seats on the sign poles, most likely you will stick your hand in some one's face, that is if you can even find the stop since there is no tactile warning/identifier It's kind of like a gooey in the middle of the ocean and telling a blind person
to find it.

Robert
.

Robert

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Presnell" <matt.from.florida@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:58 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: braille signage at all star stops


I not a brail reader myself but I tend to agree with Chip on this it
would
have made since to have the brail on the sign when you came up to the
sign
you touch the top of the sign and read left to right rather than have
to
turn sideways and then read left to right. No sighted person reads
like
that
. they read from the top to the bottom not from the side bottom to
the
side
top. Yes it would have made since to have it oriented   in the correct
position! They did not have to turn the sign but the writing of the
brail.
If not the writing of the brail then the signed itself. JST


Matt
Matt.from.florida@xxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Adam Gaffney
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:35 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: braille signage at all star stops

Hi, I've never seen Braille oriented at all vertically and if I saw
this
and didn't know ahead of time I might not even recognize it as
Braille.
Just my thoughts on this. Besides, it's not like we are reading a
novel
like that.
--
"The people may be made to follow a path of action, but they may not
be
made
to understand it."

-        Confucius ca. 480 B.C.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Chip and Allie Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 12:14 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: braille signage at all star stops


Hi Lynn,

The sinage being parallel to the pole is obvious, and was not what I
objected to.

A sighted person however would have rotated each individual letter 90
degrees, and I feel the braille should have been done the same, so
that a
person would need need to rotate their entire hand/arm/wrist in
order to
read each letter.

Chip


-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Lynn Evans
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:08 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: braille signage at all star stops

When this process began Star Metro ran it through the alphabet soup
of A
B

C
and N F B along with the Lighthouse of the Big Bend. Star Metro  had
several
examples of what the signage would eventually look like for anyone
interested to examine.

The signage has to be parallel with the pole.  If the signage was at
right
angle people would walk into the braille sign causing damage to the
sign
or
themselves.

News 27 this evening reported the signage will be distributed first
to
the
transfer points then then throughout the rest of the system.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Orange
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:39 AM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: braille signage at all star stops

It's good there will be braille signs.

Unfortunately, someone made the decision to rotate the entire line of
characters 90 degrees so that it runs "down" the pole, making it very
difficult to read (especially so for anyone with the slightest of
mobility
impairments, as you must rotate your wrist/arm 90 degrees).  In my
opinion
it would have been much better to rotate each letter 90 degrees (as
is
commonly done with printed signs) and stack the letters one beneath
the
other.

If you want to see the difficulty I'm speaking of, just take a
braille
book
or page and hold it up to a wall 4 or 5 feet off of the ground, and
rotated
90 degrees so that you read the braille from top to bottom.
Then try and read a line with one hand and you'll see the unnatural
position/motion required to read it.

Chip

-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Easy Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:25 AM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: braille signage at all star stops

There is an article about the signs on wctv, there web site is
wctv.tv

Robert

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Evans" <austin.evans60@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:22 PM
Subject: [tabi] braille signage at all star stops


braille sign signage star  metro has started placing braille signage
at
all bus stopss starting today.

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