[sib-access] Re: Strange keystroke problem
- From: saeed Mirzazadeh <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 00:08:46 +0100
Dave,
How do you think if I replace the file Sibelius5.jkm of his computer
with mine? As my file is working properly, it would work too. It's
simply accessible from
C\users\username\AppData\roming\FredomScientific\Jaws\JawsVersion\setting\Enu\Sibelius5.jkm.
In fact, this file is one of those in jaws folder of sib-access
plug-in, which is paste along the others in ExploreMySettings of Jaws
from start menue. I don't know why this keystroke has been changed!!!
Thanks.
Saeed
On 12/10/14, saeed Mirzazadeh <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dave,
> It's wonderfull! Thanks so much!
> I looked at it on my machine and know the way. I suppose the hotkey
> with windows-key is replaced in his laptop, because I don't find this
> keystroke on mine. I'll try it tomorrow morning.
> Thanks again so much!!!
> Regards,
> Saeed
>
> On 12/10/14, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Saeed,
>>
>> First, in the keyboard manager, the list that first appears are all the
>> various application-specific files. look for default and then Tab to get
>> to
>>
>> the actual list of keystrokes. Then you can do a search (in the Actions
>> menu) to see if you can find any assignments for the needed keystroke.
>>
>> As to what is actually working, you might now want to check the keyboard
>> manager again for the active Sibelius file and tab over to the list and
>> see
>>
>> if that keystroke is listed (the one with the Windows key included). If
>> so,
>>
>> and if it is indeed assigned to moving up/down staves, then you can
>> change
>> it to the standard keystroke. Exit the keyboard manager after that, and
>> see
>>
>> if it works.
>>
>> All this may be irrelevant, if perhaps your friend's laptop has something
>> very different in their physical keyboard and how it is laid out.
>>
>> Dave Carlson
>> Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "saeed Mirzazadeh" <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 04:07 AM
>> Subject: [sib-access] Re: Strange keystroke problem
>>
>>
>> Dave,
>> Thanks for your guidline!
>> In Jaws keyboard manager, there are 654 items and it's so difficult to
>> control all of it. But I can see a difference between mine and his
>> machine, that in his, there are 652 items, so 2 items less. Is that
>> something to verify seriously?
>> In Sibelius keyboard manager, I controlled and didn't see any problem.
>> Fortunately we found a substitutive combination in order to navigate
>> between staves: alt+control+windows+u/down arrow. So just by adding
>> windows-key it works. But it doesn't say the staff name you go on
>> immediately. It needs to navigate by arrow-keys, and before announcing
>> the note or rest, it says the staff-name.
>> Therefor, he can work now. But let's find the resolution of that
>> problem, if you agree!
>> Thanks a lot.
>> Regards,
>> Saeed
>>
>> On 12/10/14, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Saeed,
>>>
>>> I wonder if the JAWS default keyboard manager configuration has assigned
>>> that keystroke to some other function? Look for it there, or in any
>>> Sibelius-related keyboard manager files and see if you can remove it.
>>> But
>>> start with the JAWS default settings in the manager.keyboard
>>> Dave Carlson
>>> Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "saeed Mirzazadeh" <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 01:07 PM
>>> Subject: [sib-access] Re: Strange keystroke problem
>>>
>>>
>>> Hay all, specially Dan Rugman,
>>> I connected to my friend's computer via Tandom, and re-installed
>>> Sibelius and Sib-access. Very strangely the problem exists!!! It's
>>> just this keystroke that doesn't work, even with my keyboard via
>>> Tandom, also with an external keyboard.
>>> Please help us. I do not have any idea to try....!!!
>>> Many thanks!!!
>>> Regards,
>>> Saeed
>>>
>>> On 12/8/14, Chris Smart <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> ask Dan.
>>>>
>>>> At 05:01 PM 12/8/2014, you wrote:
>>>>>I wonder if there's any news on SA6.
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>[mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of saeed Mirzazadeh
>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 1:58 PM
>>>>>To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Subject: [sib-access] Re: Strange keystroke problem
>>>>>
>>>>>Annabelle,
>>>>>There is no graphic problem now. The keystroke to navigate between
>>>>>staves doesn't work, (alt+control+up/down arrow). It's correspondent
>>>>>with that keystroke which rotate the screen, but it's already disable.
>>>>>Saeed
>>>>>
>>>>>On 12/8/14, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> > I wonder, does that rotation happen on desktops as well? The reason
>>>>> > why
>>>>> > I
>>>>> > ask this is because when my sighted friend, Markus Johnson, makes
>>>>> > mouse
>>>>> > scripts for me with Axife Mouse Recorder, sometimes the screen
>>>>> > redraws
>>>>> > itself without us knowing what's going on.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> > [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Smart
>>>>> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 1:27 PM
>>>>> > To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> > Subject: [sib-access] Re: Strange keystroke problem
>>>>> >
>>>>> > the key that rotates the visual display on most laptops.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > At 04:21 PM 12/8/2014, you wrote:
>>>>> >>What exactly is the "graphic hotkey"? I'm confused.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>-----Original Message-----
>>>>> >>From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >>[mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of saeed
>>>>> >> Mirzazadeh
>>>>> >>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 1:19 PM
>>>>> >>To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >>Subject: [sib-access] Re: Strange keystroke problem
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>Hi all.
>>>>> >>Although the screen is in normal way and the graphic hotkey is
>>>>> >>disable, the problem still exists. For your information, Sib-access
>>>>> >>has been removed and installed again. Nothing changed.
>>>>> >>If you don't remember the problem, I repeat that alt+control+up/down
>>>>> >>arrow to navigate between staves doesn't work.
>>>>> >>Thanks for your kind help in advance!
>>>>> >>Regards,
>>>>> >>Saeed
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>On 12/5/14, saeed Mirzazadeh <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> >> > Thanks Dave.
>>>>> >> > The problem is to make sure if the screen is in normal way before
>>>>> >> > setting the graphic hotkey disable. I'll try to find a way.
>>>>> >> > Thanks again.
>>>>> >> > Saeed
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > On 12/5/14, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> >> >> Saeed,
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> It will work, and make sure that the setting is saved. Also if
>>>>> >> >> the
>>>>> > screen
>>>>> >> >> is
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> already rotated, it will not work, so make sure the screen is
>>>>> >> >> back
>>>>> >> >> to
>>>>> >> >> a
>>>>> >> >> normal right-side up view.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Dave Carlson
>>>>> >> >> Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >> >> From: "saeed Mirzazadeh" <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >> >> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >> >> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 12:40 PM
>>>>> >> >> Subject: [sib-access] Re: Strange keystroke problem
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Dave,
>>>>> >> >> Thanks for al information.
>>>>> >> >> But I already knew that and had him done it. It doesn't still
>>>>> >> >> work.
>>>>> >> >> Regards,
>>>>> >> >> Saeed
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> On 12/5/14, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> >> >>> Hello,
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> Here's the text from the tips *& tricks file:
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> Fixing Screen Rotation
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> Ctrl+Alt+Down restores the screen to its correct position. So,
>>>>> >> >>> if
>>>>> > you're
>>>>> >> >>> only trying that keystroke, you won't see anything happening on
>>>>> > screen.
>>>>> >> >>> If
>>>>> >> >>> you try Ctrl+Alt+Up however, the screen will turn up-side-down,
>>>>> >> >>> which
>>>>> >> >>> will
>>>>> >> >>> be an obvious giveaway. You may also find that JAWS stops
>>>>> >> >>> reading
>>>>> >> >>> list
>>>>> >> >>> views
>>>>> >> >>> correctly if the screen has been rotated.
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> The options to double-check are in a dialog that you reach
>>>>> >> >>> through
>>>>> >> >>> the
>>>>> >> >>> desktop. These instructions are for systems with the Intel
>>>>> >> >>> graphics
>>>>> >> >>> chips
>>>>> >> >>> usually found in Del machines.
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> Press Windows+M to minimize all apps and go to the desktop.
>>>>> >> >>> Then
>>>>> >> >>> press
>>>>> >> >>> Ctrl+Space until JAWS says that the item your on is not
>>>>> >> >>> selected.
>>>>> >> >>> Now
>>>>> >> >>> press
>>>>> >> >>> the applications key to bring up the desktops context menu. You
>>>>> >> >>> should
>>>>> >> >>> find
>>>>> >> >>> an option called graphics. This will open the graphics card
>>>>> >> >>> applet
>>>>> > which
>>>>> >> >>> contains some options for disabling the rotation shortcut keys.
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> You may need to use the JAWS cursor to get to the relevant
>>>>> >> >>> check
>>>>> >> >>> boxes
>>>>> >> >>> within the adapters properties dialog.
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> There is another way to get to these options but it involves
>>>>> >> >>> right-clicking
>>>>> >> >>> the desktop itself, not an icon, but the background of the
>>>>> >> >>> desktop.
>>>>> >> >>> As
>>>>> >> >>> Dave
>>>>> >> >>> says, go to the desktop and make sure that nothing is selected.
>>>>> >> >>> (After
>>>>> >> >>> pressing Windows+M, press Ctrl+Space until you hear "not
>>>>> >> >>> selected".)
>>>>> >> >>> Next,
>>>>> >> >>> press Applications and choose graphic options.
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> BTW, this problem seems to be most prevalent on Del machines
>>>>> >> >>> which
>>>>> > have
>>>>> >> >>> the
>>>>> >> >>> on-board Intel graphics chip, even more so on laptops.
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> Dave Carlson
>>>>> >> >>> Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >> >>> From: "saeed Mirzazadeh" <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >> >>> To: "sib-access" <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >> >>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 04:21 AM
>>>>> >> >>> Subject: [sib-access] Strange keystroke problem
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> Hi all.
>>>>> >> >>> A friend of mine has recently got a new laptop and installed
>>>>> >> >>> sib-access on it. The plug-in is running normally, as it's
>>>>> >> >>> announced
>>>>> >> >>> by testing, but just one keystroke does not work, which is
>>>>> >> >>> alt+control+up/down arrow to navigate between staves.
>>>>> >> >>> What do you advice to resolve this strange problem?
>>>>> >> >>> Thanks so much in advance!
>>>>> >> >>> Best regards,
>>>>> >> >>> Saeed
>>>>> >> >>>
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