Dave, How do you think if I replace the file Sibelius5.jkm of his computer with mine? As my file is working properly, it would work too. It's simply accessible from C\users\username\AppData\roming\FredomScientific\Jaws\JawsVersion\setting\Enu\Sibelius5.jkm. In fact, this file is one of those in jaws folder of sib-access plug-in, which is paste along the others in ExploreMySettings of Jaws from start menue. I don't know why this keystroke has been changed!!! Thanks. Saeed On 12/10/14, saeed Mirzazadeh <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Dave, > It's wonderfull! Thanks so much! > I looked at it on my machine and know the way. I suppose the hotkey > with windows-key is replaced in his laptop, because I don't find this > keystroke on mine. I'll try it tomorrow morning. > Thanks again so much!!! > Regards, > Saeed > > On 12/10/14, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Saeed, >> >> First, in the keyboard manager, the list that first appears are all the >> various application-specific files. look for default and then Tab to get >> to >> >> the actual list of keystrokes. Then you can do a search (in the Actions >> menu) to see if you can find any assignments for the needed keystroke. >> >> As to what is actually working, you might now want to check the keyboard >> manager again for the active Sibelius file and tab over to the list and >> see >> >> if that keystroke is listed (the one with the Windows key included). If >> so, >> >> and if it is indeed assigned to moving up/down staves, then you can >> change >> it to the standard keystroke. Exit the keyboard manager after that, and >> see >> >> if it works. >> >> All this may be irrelevant, if perhaps your friend's laptop has something >> very different in their physical keyboard and how it is laid out. >> >> Dave Carlson >> Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "saeed Mirzazadeh" <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 04:07 AM >> Subject: [sib-access] Re: Strange keystroke problem >> >> >> Dave, >> Thanks for your guidline! >> In Jaws keyboard manager, there are 654 items and it's so difficult to >> control all of it. But I can see a difference between mine and his >> machine, that in his, there are 652 items, so 2 items less. Is that >> something to verify seriously? >> In Sibelius keyboard manager, I controlled and didn't see any problem. >> Fortunately we found a substitutive combination in order to navigate >> between staves: alt+control+windows+u/down arrow. So just by adding >> windows-key it works. But it doesn't say the staff name you go on >> immediately. It needs to navigate by arrow-keys, and before announcing >> the note or rest, it says the staff-name. >> Therefor, he can work now. But let's find the resolution of that >> problem, if you agree! >> Thanks a lot. >> Regards, >> Saeed >> >> On 12/10/14, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Saeed, >>> >>> I wonder if the JAWS default keyboard manager configuration has assigned >>> that keystroke to some other function? Look for it there, or in any >>> Sibelius-related keyboard manager files and see if you can remove it. >>> But >>> start with the JAWS default settings in the manager.keyboard >>> Dave Carlson >>> Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "saeed Mirzazadeh" <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 01:07 PM >>> Subject: [sib-access] Re: Strange keystroke problem >>> >>> >>> Hay all, specially Dan Rugman, >>> I connected to my friend's computer via Tandom, and re-installed >>> Sibelius and Sib-access. Very strangely the problem exists!!! It's >>> just this keystroke that doesn't work, even with my keyboard via >>> Tandom, also with an external keyboard. >>> Please help us. I do not have any idea to try....!!! >>> Many thanks!!! >>> Regards, >>> Saeed >>> >>> On 12/8/14, Chris Smart <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> ask Dan. >>>> >>>> At 05:01 PM 12/8/2014, you wrote: >>>>>I wonder if there's any news on SA6. >>>>> >>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>[mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of saeed Mirzazadeh >>>>>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 1:58 PM >>>>>To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>Subject: [sib-access] Re: Strange keystroke problem >>>>> >>>>>Annabelle, >>>>>There is no graphic problem now. The keystroke to navigate between >>>>>staves doesn't work, (alt+control+up/down arrow). It's correspondent >>>>>with that keystroke which rotate the screen, but it's already disable. >>>>>Saeed >>>>> >>>>>On 12/8/14, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> > I wonder, does that rotation happen on desktops as well? The reason >>>>> > why >>>>> > I >>>>> > ask this is because when my sighted friend, Markus Johnson, makes >>>>> > mouse >>>>> > scripts for me with Axife Mouse Recorder, sometimes the screen >>>>> > redraws >>>>> > itself without us knowing what's going on. >>>>> > >>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>> > From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> > [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Smart >>>>> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 1:27 PM >>>>> > To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> > Subject: [sib-access] Re: Strange keystroke problem >>>>> > >>>>> > the key that rotates the visual display on most laptops. >>>>> > >>>>> > At 04:21 PM 12/8/2014, you wrote: >>>>> >>What exactly is the "graphic hotkey"? I'm confused. >>>>> >> >>>>> >>-----Original Message----- >>>>> >>From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>[mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of saeed >>>>> >> Mirzazadeh >>>>> >>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 1:19 PM >>>>> >>To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>Subject: [sib-access] Re: Strange keystroke problem >>>>> >> >>>>> >>Hi all. >>>>> >>Although the screen is in normal way and the graphic hotkey is >>>>> >>disable, the problem still exists. For your information, Sib-access >>>>> >>has been removed and installed again. Nothing changed. >>>>> >>If you don't remember the problem, I repeat that alt+control+up/down >>>>> >>arrow to navigate between staves doesn't work. >>>>> >>Thanks for your kind help in advance! >>>>> >>Regards, >>>>> >>Saeed >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>On 12/5/14, saeed Mirzazadeh <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >> > Thanks Dave. >>>>> >> > The problem is to make sure if the screen is in normal way before >>>>> >> > setting the graphic hotkey disable. I'll try to find a way. >>>>> >> > Thanks again. >>>>> >> > Saeed >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > On 12/5/14, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >> >> Saeed, >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> It will work, and make sure that the setting is saved. Also if >>>>> >> >> the >>>>> > screen >>>>> >> >> is >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> already rotated, it will not work, so make sure the screen is >>>>> >> >> back >>>>> >> >> to >>>>> >> >> a >>>>> >> >> normal right-side up view. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Dave Carlson >>>>> >> >> Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >> >> From: "saeed Mirzazadeh" <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> >> >> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> >> >> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 12:40 PM >>>>> >> >> Subject: [sib-access] Re: Strange keystroke problem >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Dave, >>>>> >> >> Thanks for al information. >>>>> >> >> But I already knew that and had him done it. It doesn't still >>>>> >> >> work. >>>>> >> >> Regards, >>>>> >> >> Saeed >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> On 12/5/14, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >> >>> Hello, >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> Here's the text from the tips *& tricks file: >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> Fixing Screen Rotation >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> Ctrl+Alt+Down restores the screen to its correct position. So, >>>>> >> >>> if >>>>> > you're >>>>> >> >>> only trying that keystroke, you won't see anything happening on >>>>> > screen. >>>>> >> >>> If >>>>> >> >>> you try Ctrl+Alt+Up however, the screen will turn up-side-down, >>>>> >> >>> which >>>>> >> >>> will >>>>> >> >>> be an obvious giveaway. You may also find that JAWS stops >>>>> >> >>> reading >>>>> >> >>> list >>>>> >> >>> views >>>>> >> >>> correctly if the screen has been rotated. >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> The options to double-check are in a dialog that you reach >>>>> >> >>> through >>>>> >> >>> the >>>>> >> >>> desktop. These instructions are for systems with the Intel >>>>> >> >>> graphics >>>>> >> >>> chips >>>>> >> >>> usually found in Del machines. >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> Press Windows+M to minimize all apps and go to the desktop. >>>>> >> >>> Then >>>>> >> >>> press >>>>> >> >>> Ctrl+Space until JAWS says that the item your on is not >>>>> >> >>> selected. >>>>> >> >>> Now >>>>> >> >>> press >>>>> >> >>> the applications key to bring up the desktops context menu. You >>>>> >> >>> should >>>>> >> >>> find >>>>> >> >>> an option called graphics. This will open the graphics card >>>>> >> >>> applet >>>>> > which >>>>> >> >>> contains some options for disabling the rotation shortcut keys. >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> You may need to use the JAWS cursor to get to the relevant >>>>> >> >>> check >>>>> >> >>> boxes >>>>> >> >>> within the adapters properties dialog. >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> There is another way to get to these options but it involves >>>>> >> >>> right-clicking >>>>> >> >>> the desktop itself, not an icon, but the background of the >>>>> >> >>> desktop. >>>>> >> >>> As >>>>> >> >>> Dave >>>>> >> >>> says, go to the desktop and make sure that nothing is selected. >>>>> >> >>> (After >>>>> >> >>> pressing Windows+M, press Ctrl+Space until you hear "not >>>>> >> >>> selected".) >>>>> >> >>> Next, >>>>> >> >>> press Applications and choose graphic options. >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> BTW, this problem seems to be most prevalent on Del machines >>>>> >> >>> which >>>>> > have >>>>> >> >>> the >>>>> >> >>> on-board Intel graphics chip, even more so on laptops. >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> Dave Carlson >>>>> >> >>> Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >> >>> From: "saeed Mirzazadeh" <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> >> >>> To: "sib-access" <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> >> >>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 04:21 AM >>>>> >> >>> Subject: [sib-access] Strange keystroke problem >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> Hi all. >>>>> >> >>> A friend of mine has recently got a new laptop and installed >>>>> >> >>> sib-access on it. The plug-in is running normally, as it's >>>>> >> >>> announced >>>>> >> >>> by testing, but just one keystroke does not work, which is >>>>> >> >>> alt+control+up/down arrow to navigate between staves. >>>>> >> >>> What do you advice to resolve this strange problem? >>>>> >> >>> Thanks so much in advance! >>>>> >> >>> Best regards, >>>>> >> >>> Saeed >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> -- >>>>> >> >>> My Youtube Channel: >>>>> >> >>> https://www.youtube.com/user/s1n2m >>>>> >> >>> My SoundCloud: >>>>> >> >>> https://soundcloud.com/sanonosa >>>>> >> >>> If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message >>>>> >> >>> with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: >>>>> >> >>> sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message >>>>> >> >>> with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: >>>>> >> >>> sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> -- >>>>> >> >> My Youtube Channel: >>>>> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/user/s1n2m >>>>> >> >> My SoundCloud: >>>>> >> >> https://soundcloud.com/sanonosa >>>>> >> >> If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message >>>>> >> >> with the single word, unsubscribe - 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