Please clarify any points I misrepresent below. They are a compilation = of the most salient points I know of concerning this thread. 1) Microstrip traces can radiate EMI, as indicated by the Dockey paper = and others. =20 2) I don't believe a case of "well behaved" microstrip traces generating = enough EMI to fail FCC standards has been demonstrated - all failing = instances seem to be accompanied with the caveat of including a design = error, or unreasonable geometries (.062" above the ground plane). a) This seems to agree with my experience - there are many 4-layer = boards out there where microstrip is your only option (I would also = point out that they don't have the luxury of closely coupling the power = and ground planes, but that could lead to another furball). b) If, in fact, it is possible to route high speed signals on = microstrip and, with proper design considerations, pass FCC emissions = standards, it would seem to be a mistake to do otherwise. I, for one, = have had the unfortunate experience of overdesigning (to be on the safe = side), only to find my competitor offering a product cheaper when they = cut corners. I've also had the opposite experience - being penny-wise, = but pound foolish. Knowing when we are being properly cautious is what = we get paid for. 3) In the case of a not-so-well-behaved layout, which we are often = forced into, closely-coupled differential traces offer a high level of = "forgiveness" over single-ended, or loosely-coupled differential = routing. Jeff Loyer ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu