[SI-LIST] Re: DDR2 design

  • From: steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ivorlist@xxxxxxxxxxx, si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:34:13 -0800

Ivor, maybe.  Nothing sounds terribly wrong, but that is really 
inadequate.  You need to simulate, or get someone else to simulate 
for you.  Then you can see if any adjustments are needed and make 
them.  You need to account for what the silicon is up to as well as the trace.

With all due respect your question comes off a bit like:  "Guys, I 
haven't done my homework, would someone do it for me?"  If someone is 
so willing, great.  I would be surprised to see that.  I would also 
suspect the answer.

If you want detailed free help, your best chance is from your chip 
suppliers.  Maybe Altera will run the simulation for you.

Steve.
At 03:22 PM 2/22/2006, Ivor Bowden wrote:
>Hi SI Experts,
>
>I am reviewing a layout for an embedded DDR2 design using 4 Micron DDR2
>chips with an Altera Cyclone controller. The memory is set up to be 64
>bits wide, 16 bits per chip.
>
>The target rate is 167MHz. The design is not simulated.
>
>Termination is as follows:
>ODT may be supported, still investigating.
>There is no series term.
>There is 0.9V stub term for control lines.
>There is a differential 100 ohm term for each clock pair (4 total).
>
>Routing is as follows:
>Control lines are daisy chained and length matched between the first
>DRAM and controller (about 1"), each DRAM (about .75") and the last DRAM
>and terminators (about .25"); total net length is about 3.5".
>Data lines are length matched at about 3" (controller to DRAM).
>Clock lines are length matched at about 4" (controller to DRAM).
>Trace impedance is targeted at 100 ohms for clock and control lines, and
>75 ohms for data lines.
>
>Is this design likely to work? If not, what changes should be considered?
>
>I very much appreciate all comments. Thank you!
>
>Ivor Bowden
>Engineer
>Curtiss-Wright Controls
>
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