[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A lost opportunity
- From: caggra@xxxxxxx
- To: hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, sally@xxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:33:22 -0400
Christine-
At first read I thought your suggestion was a bit out of reach, but I have
thought about this quite a bit today and after arguing with Sean (LOL!).....I
think that your idea is something to consider. However, I think that the GSDCA
Board would be and should be leary about actually being the ones to start
and/or monitor this "new" list. I think that they would be setting themselves
up for more controversy and I also believe it would be just one more thing on
the board's plate when they have so much on it already. Putting a huge
responsibility like the list on the board, I believe, would cause more
negativity toward them - which we and they certainly do not need.
The company I work for has, like you say, the "Can-do's" and the "Cannot's",
the negatives versus the positives. I used to be a negative - one that always
was "anti-Corporate" or not happy about something or another. I have learned
here that being positive is everything....and negativity is a contageous virus
that never ends up doing good. This can be applied to everything in life and
very much so to our Parent Club and Board. I just don't want there to be
another reason for people to bitch and complain about the "board's" list.
SO - I think that a Private list created and monitored by someone such as
yourself or another non-board member for Parent Club members is a fantastic
idea. That happening may or may not affect this current list, but like you
said.....so be it. Maybe that needs to happen....or maybe both can survive and
serve it's own unique purpose.
I am not sure if I have given an good answer or response in it's entirety, but
maybe an idea or two to throw in there.
Sincerely,
Jeff Pyle
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Grainger <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; sally@xxxxxxxxxxx;
showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:54:32 -0500
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A lost opportunity
We can't contain the discussions as far as others repeating what is said.
we can't do it on this List...if there is a major impact..then so be
it..perhaps we need a major impact...On the current List..we can't discuss
the elections..candidates can't let us know their positions on issues
important to their constituents...The new list I have in mind..will allow
for this...we have many who apparently don't know the candidates..yet we
limited what can be discussed on this List..further alienating the people
who would like to know who they are voting for. We have non-members
influencing the outcome of important issues in the GSDCA.. I am sure the
"We can't" will prevail...I already sense it...any thought of progression
in the GSDCA looks to be a lost cause..or is somehow perceived as a threat.
In my world..I can't imagine that anyone thinking that 5.00 a month to help
support our breed is too much...however..in todays world..we need
incentives..it isn't enough unfortunately for people just to want to belong
for the sake of supporting the breed..everyone "wants" something for their
money...I am trying to think of creative ways to give them more bang for
their buck...any input form the "WE CANS..would be appreciated..C.Grainger
> [Original Message]
> From: <mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <sally@xxxxxxxxxxx>;
<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 8/23/2005 10:14:44 AM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A lost opportunity
>
>
> With all due respect, that's impossible for a number of reasons: it is
impossible to contain the discussions, it is impossible to have almost
parallel lists without major impact, it is impossible to manage multiple
lists independently, and it is impossible for the List to 'stay as it is..'
>
> Margy Golant
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Steve Grainger"<hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: 8/23/05 11:03:19 AM
> To: "sally@xxxxxxxxxxx"<sally@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A lost opportunity
> Sally...this is where the concept of a GSDCA List comes
forth...again for
> the hundredth time..the current List will stay as it
> is..education..brags..handling...whatever we discuss will stay the
> same..with the exception information pertinent to the GSDCA...are you
> saying that you would not tap into a GSDCA List to find out PC
information
> as a PC member? what are your suggestions for increasing membership
and
> membership benefits?..I have offered some progressive ideas for
improvement
> that most have received quite well..I realize it is a departure from
the
> usual grind of "this club is going to Hell in a hand basket" but I and
> others are offering insightful ideas to provoke thought, positive
> discussion and get people motivated to participate in taking the club
> forward...We ARE the GSDCA..the GSDCA is not some obscure
organization made
> up of other people..if it goes to hell..then we are responsible for
its
> demise..so we can either work together for improvement..or wallow in
self
> pity..what's it going to be?C.Grainger
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: <sally@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: 8/23/2005 7:03:42 AM
> > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A lost opportunity
> >
> > Without this list I doubt the majority of PC members would know
what is
> going on in the club .
> > With out this list pc members would basically not have any say in
the
> club at all.
> >
> > sally
> >
> >
> >
> >
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