Yes, we can. Showgsd-l most definitely DOES allow for this, so long as there are not personal attacks or other rule violation. We most definitely CAN discuss the elections....candidates CAN let us know their positions on issues important to their constituents... Please, feel free. The List Management posred on this issue weeks ago - so long as the posts are civil, they are most definitely permitted. Margery Golant Showgsd-l Administrator On 8/23/05 at 11:54:32 AM, : "Steve Grainger"<hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: ...<snip> On the current List..we can't discuss the elections..candidates can't let us know their positions on issues important to their constituents...The new list I have in mind..will allow for this...we have many who apparently don't know the candidates..yet we limited what can be discussed on this List..further alienating the people who would like to know who they are voting for. We have non-members influencing the outcome of important issues in the GSDCA.. I am sure the "We can't" will prevail...I already sense it...any thought of progression in the GSDCA looks to be a lost cause..or is somehow perceived as a threat. In my world..I can't imagine that anyone thinking that 5.00 a month to help support our breed is too much...however..in todays world..we need incentives..it isn't enough unfortunately for people just to want to belong for the sake of supporting the breed..everyone "wants" something for their money...I am trying to think of creative ways to give them more bang for their buck...any input form the "WE CANS..would be appreciated..C.Grainger > [Original Message] > From: <mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <sally@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 8/23/2005 10:14:44 AM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A lost opportunity > > > With all due respect, that's impossible for a number of reasons: it is impossible to contain the discussions, it is impossible to have almost parallel lists without major impact, it is impossible to manage multiple lists independently, and it is impossible for the List to 'stay as it is..' > > Margy Golant > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Steve Grainger"<hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: 8/23/05 11:03:19 AM > To: "sally@xxxxxxxxxxx"<sally@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A lost opportunity > Sally...this is where the concept of a GSDCA List comes forth...again for > the hundredth time..the current List will stay as it > is..education..brags..handling...whatever we discuss will stay the > same..with the exception information pertinent to the GSDCA...are you > saying that you would not tap into a GSDCA List to find out PC information > as a PC member? what are your suggestions for increasing membership and > membership benefits?..I have offered some progressive ideas for improvement > that most have received quite well..I realize it is a departure from the > usual grind of "this club is going to Hell in a hand basket" but I and > others are offering insightful ideas to provoke thought, positive > discussion and get people motivated to participate in taking the club > forward...We ARE the GSDCA..the GSDCA is not some obscure organization made > up of other people..if it goes to hell..then we are responsible for its > demise..so we can either work together for improvement..or wallow in self > pity..what's it going to be?C.Grainger > > > > [Original Message] > > From: <sally@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Date: 8/23/2005 7:03:42 AM > > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: A lost opportunity > > > > Without this list I doubt the majority of PC members would know what is > going on in the club . > > With out this list pc members would basically not have any say in the > club at all. > > > > sally > > > > > > > > > ============================================================================ > > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS > of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author > AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE > PROSECUTED. > > > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org > > > ============================================================================ > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ > . > > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ . ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================