Good ideas Christine. The bulk of the knowledge of the GSD is unquestionably in the members of the PC - both GSDCA and GSDCA-WDA. These are the people who truly support the breed and who stand for what they believe in with their time, talents and money. We do not all agree 100 % on every issue but we are all in there fighting the fight to preserve the GSD as the truly noble and versatile breed that it is against all of the factions who would destroy the sports of purebred dogs in general. We are the ones on the front lines. All of the talk and all of the opinions and all of the bickering that takes place on this list does little to further our efforts. Too much information in the hands of people with very limited experience does more to confuse than it does to enlighten. Those of us who are serious about the future of this breed will be found on the membership rolls of the AGSDC and/or The WDA. The newcomrs into the breed are absolutely necessary to the survival of our breed and our sport but they do not need to be getting their education from others with no experience who talk a good line on this list but have never proven themselves in any venue and who have never supported the Parent Club of this breed. They need to GET INVOLVED with more than their computer keyboard. Parent club membership AND active involvement in dog sports with their dogs is the only way for them to truly learn what this world is all about. This list is very beneficial and can be an introduction into the world of the GSD but it is also very frustrating at times to those of us who are looking for less 'hype' and more substance in things. So, personally I would welcome a list where PC matters were discussed among people at least serious enough about the breed to be active in it at some level - and I don't mean just breeding puppies. lynda Check out our websites for constantly updated info and pictures www.falkrigiashepherds.com www.thecraftywoodchuck.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================