[rollei_list] Re: Rollei Retro 100/Agfa 100 - problems
- From: Thor Legvold <tlegvold@xxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:03:39 +0100
Hi Mark,
thanks for the reply.
On 29. okt.. 2009, at 23.43, Mark Rabiner wrote:
It would seem that Rollei Retro 100 is "equivalent in
characteristics to
Agfa APX 100 B&W film" according to Freestyle.
Which means its the same stuff repackaged.
Rollei Retro is indeed Agfa 100. I specifically searched it out after
Agfa went bankrupt and bought 100 rolls. I prefer the scale it offers
over the other films I've tried.
Agfa black and white films I've always found quite a interesting
tangent to
take form the mainstream but a major issue being the
phantasmagorically long
development times. Much longer than Agfa admits on their little data
stubs.
And longer than Rodinal suggests on theirs.
That's very interesting data. The guy at the lab might be relying too
hard on his charts, instead of actually seeing what's up with the
film....
First he told me 5 minutes for Tri-X, and 4:30 for Rollei/Agfa. Later
(after he went and checked) he said 4 minutes for the Rollei/Agfa (in
an automated JOBO at 24C). Obviously 4 minutes is too short. But 15-20
minutes? They're going to charge me for push processing at those
times! Besides, I've received many rolls that were developed just
fine. For some reason it's the last few batches I've sent, where the
Tri-X (I use for 400 ISO) is fine, but the Rollei/Agfa is very thin.
Do you think raising the temperature (but staying at around 5 min)
would work ok?
I'll have another talk with the guy at the lab in the morning.
So we have to be able to be in the mood to do this it seems
unusual.. Stand
there in your darkroom over a development tank for 15 or 20 minutes.
Do that and you'll get proper densities and you'll see exposure was
not the
problem. Don't do it and you get such thin negs you'll not know
what's going
on.
Sounds like what you're describing. Weird that it just started
recently, I've been using the same film for years. The guy at the lab
started there a year ago, I think.
I suggest sticking with Ilford and Neopan and even Kodak black and
white
films. I hear Kodak has gotten the pink issue out.
I never cared for Ilford or Fuji B&W films, Kodak Tri-X is beautiful
and gritty, but that's not always what I'm after. Agfa 100/Rollei
Retro has a beautiful tonality to it. If need be I might have to set
up my own processing. Anyone have a Jobo for sale? Needs to be at
least semi automatic, no time to stand over the sink in a darkened
room these days....
Mark William Rabiner
Cheers,
Thor
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