[rollei_list] Re: Rollei Retro 100/Agfa 100 - problems

  • From: Elias Roustom <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:23:51 -0500

Well I wasn't suggesting you go the color route - I was merely pointing out that if you're going to go the chromogenic route, you may as well save yourself some money and use color neg film. I was rebutting Hauke's argument that if you didn't do your own processing, then you should abandon traditional silver emulsion - with the understanding that the film was destined for the scanner, not the enlarger. I was underwhelmed by the chromogenic films myself, and I didn't like printing from Kodak's version. My main point was that you keep working with your lab, and get your shooting to match their processing, or vise versa, and then you won't have to go to the trouble of setting up a film processing operation in your home - even though I think it's easier than doing laundry. Only trouble is that responsibly disposing of the waste chemistry is a bit of a chore, and you really have to keep your kids from messing about with the bottles of acids and poisons.


If you can't find a workable situation in NYC, there's a couple labs in Massachusetts that will do an outstanding job for you: One is Bill La Pete's lab in Boston. He knows just about every film/ developer combination there is, very good at trouble shooting, and he's an exceptional printer.
http://lapetelabs.com/services/

Good luck,

Elias

On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:29 AM, Thor Legvold wrote:

Hi Elias,

I tried the Ilford XP something some years ago and was underwhelmed. Besides, I would guess that the longevity is nowhere near a true silver halide film. (that would call for a new thread if you want to go there...)

As long as I'm shooting B&W, I want to shoot B&W. I have abotu 10 more rolls of Kodachrome to use up before it's officially dead, that's been my colour mainstay.

Since I scan only for Flickr (and seldomly), there is no conversion to grayscale in the darkroom (tried that too, printing B&W from colour negs, another disappointing experience), meaning I'd prefer to stay in the B&W domain from start to finish.

Thanks for hte suggestions though.

Thor

On 1. nov.. 2009, at 03.08, Elias Roustom wrote:

In one sentence, you develop b&w film yourself, or you stick with
chromagene (sp?) b&w films like the Ilford XP400, developed in C41 process.
Shipping conventional b&w film for a mediocre "average" development
procedure is just not worth while.


If you find a lab that will work with you, there are many ways in which your shooting and their processing can be synchronized for optimal results. XP is great stuff if you can't find a lab you can work with - but the hybrid way film is used today, why even use chromogenic films - good color negative films are cheaper, more versatile, and conversion of the color scans to grayscale is easy.

E.
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