The second way you mentioned is what I believe I did last and the volume on the external card controlled both jaws and dictation.I altered that .iny file, patched to the internal and with headset into speaker that has volume dial. I've tried so many different combinations of things and sometimes no change or things backwards to the way I believed I had them set. lol So I'm obviously doing something wrong. Suzanne R This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net To subscribe or to leave the list, or to set other subscription options, go to www.freelists.org/list/real-eyes