[pure-silver] Re: having digital negatives made
- From: "Eric Neilsen Photography" <ej@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:03:22 -0600
If the object is to get an image on the paper that works OK, if the object
is to make a print that comes anywhere close to a camera original, I think
you'll be very disappointed.
Eric Neilsen Photography
4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
Dallas, TX 75226
214-827-8301
www.ericneilsenphotography.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elias Roustom
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 10:53 AM
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: having digital negatives made
Has anyone ever tried enlarging a laser imagesetter's fine screen
negative, as is made for offset printing?
Elias
On Jan 24, 2009, at 11:41 AM, Eric Neilsen Photography wrote:
> Mark, Why do you think a medium format neg may be better? And
> Shannon, the
> advantage that jumps out at me with a neg for the enlarger is the
> ability to
> make prints of various sizes from the same output? If that is
> requirement at
> all and you can also have a positive made and make your own contact
> neg
> later.
>
> Eric Neilsen Photography
> 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> Dallas, TX 75226
> 214-827-8301
> www.ericneilsenphotography.com
>
> SKYPE ejprinter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Blackwell
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 10:12 AM
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: having digital negatives made
>
> First I think we need to get Shannon to clarify if a contact print
> is the
> goal, or a negative is needed to use in an enlarger. With a
> contact print
> there may be some other options, but frankly a digital negative
> with a a
> film recorder would be best. Unless advised otherwise by the lab,
> or the
> enlarger wouldn't accept a 4x5 or don't have something needed to
> print 4x5,
> I'd personally use this as a test.
>
> Id get a digital negative of the same file both as a Medium Format
> negative
> and a 4x5 negative and see first hand which project and printed
> better in my
> workflow and methods.
>
>
> --- On Sat, 1/24/09, Eric Neilsen Photography
> <ej@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> From: Eric Neilsen Photography <ej@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: having digital negatives made
>> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 10:04 AM
>> Better is such a loose term. The newer printers give you
>> better results with
>> the ABW setting than the 2200. However, if silver prints
>> are your goal you
>> may be better off going with a film negative made with an
>> LVT. Not all
>> providers of LVT will or can go up to anything bigger than
>> 8x10. Some of it
>> depends on the paper that you chose and whether a contact
>> neg is a good
>> choice. You also need to learn how much sharpening to add
>> to your film to
>> make it look right, etc. It is not just a slam dunk thing
>> where you provide
>> a file and it is perfect first time around. You may want to
>> create a file
>> with 4 4x5 on a single 8x10 layout and see what adjustments
>> work best. ONLY
>> deal with a lab that can tell you what your RGB # will
>> translate to in real
>> density to your negative. And just like with shooting and
>> exposing you can
>> get absolutely perfect target numbers but they will be
>> really close.
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric Neilsen Photography
>> 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
>> Dallas, TX 75226
>> 214-827-8301
>> www.ericneilsenphotography.com
>>
>> SKYPE ejprinter
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Shannon Stoney
>> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:42 AM
>> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: having digital negatives made
>>
>> My enlarger can go up to 4x5. (the 8x10 enlarger is broken
>> right now.)
>>
>> My ink jet printer is an Epson 2200, but I have access to a
>> 2400. In
>> the past my efforts to make digital negatives didn't
>> work out very
>> well, but maybe I can try again.
>>
>> My process is silver. :-) (Although in the past I did do
>> those other
>> processes you mention.) My paper scale is 1.2.
>>
>> So, you are saying that it is better to make a negative for
>> enlarging
>> than one for contact printing if possible?
>>
>> --shannon
>>
>>
>> ere.
>>
>>
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