----- Original Message ----- From: "Lloyd Erlick" <lloyd@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 7:36 AM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Selenium followed by T-8 Polysulfide > dec1804 from Lloyd Erlick, > > > At 04:35 PM 12/16/2004 , you wrote: >> >>Peter >> >>After months of testing, I have now switched to two-bath >>toning. Depending >>on the image intention and the paper used, I tone in KRST >>1+19 (1-4 min) >>first, followed by KBT 1+31 (1-4 min). I use a 30-minute >>wash before the >>KRST-toning and a 5-minute wash before the KBT-toning. > ... >> >>Ralph W. Lambrecht >> >>... > > What would you say is the formula of Kodak Brown Toner? Is > the Kodak T-8 > formula comparable? I've used your method, basically, but > even when Kodak > was still making KBT, it was not really available in > Canada, so I used T-8. > I phoned Kodak about it and was told I'd have to buy a > case. Now I'm sorry > I didn't! > > regards, > --le > ________________________________ > Lloyd Erlick Portraits, Toronto. > voice: 416-686-0326 > email: portrait@xxxxxxxxxxxx > net: www.heylloyd.com > ________________________________ > -- KBT and T-8 are not quite the same. KBT is concentrated and is diluted about 1:30 for use, T-8 is used full strength. Some time ago a posted a couple of formulas for combining KBT and KRST. One formula was from a Kodak publication, the other from a magazine article, the latter appeared to be the actual Polytoner formula. However, Ryuji Suzuki tried at least one of these and found that it caused immediate and deep staining of the prints treated in it. Presumably, the formula for one or both of the commercial products had been changed since the formulas for combining them were published c.1955. At the time Polytoner was not yet available. I will repost the formulas if anyone is interested but won't here since they evidently don't work anymore. --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.