richard; i have used those formula's you posted on the other version of pure-silver and they give a nice tone; however, as i have never used the orginal Polytoner , can't compare or give any insight to the differences. My students like the results so we keep them on hand and the materials available to mix more as needed. regards, ann -------------- Original message -------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lloyd Erlick" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 7:36 AM > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Selenium followed by T-8 > Polysulfide > > > > dec1804 from Lloyd Erlick, > > > > > > At 04:35 PM 12/16/2004 , you wrote: > >> > >>Peter > >> > >>After months of testing, I have now switched to two-bath > >>toning. Depending > >>on the image intention and the paper used, I tone in KRST > >>1+19 (1-4 min) > >>first, followed by KBT 1+31 (1-4 min). I use a 30-minute > >>wash before the > >>KRST-toning and a 5-minute wash before the KBT-toning. > > ... > >> > >>Ralph W. Lambrecht > >> > >>... > > > > What would you say is the formula of Kodak Brown Toner? Is > > the Kodak T-8 > > formula comparable? I've used your method, basically, but > > even when Kodak > > was still making KBT, it was not really available in > > Canada, so I used T-8. > > I phoned Kodak about it and was told I'd have to buy a > > case. Now I'm sorry > > I didn't! > > > > regards, > > --le > > ________________________________ > > Lloyd Erlick Portraits, Toronto. > > voice: 416-686-0326 > > email: portrait@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > net: www.heylloyd.com > > ________________________________ > > -- > KBT and T-8 are not quite the same. KBT is concentrated > and is diluted about 1:30 for use, T-8 is used full > strength. > Some time ago a posted a couple of formulas for > combining KBT and KRST. One formula was from a Kodak > publication, the other from a magazine article, the latter > appeared to be the actual Polytoner formula. However, Ryuji > Suzuki tried at least one of these and found that it caused > immediate and deep staining of the prints treated in it. > Presumably, the formula for one or both of the commercial > products had been changed since the formulas for combining > them were published c.1955. At the time Polytoner was not > yet available. I will repost the formulas if anyone is > interested but won't here since they evidently don't work > anymore. > > --- > Richard Knoppow > Los Angeles, CA, USA > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ================================================================================ > > ============================= > To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your > account > (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and > unsubscribe from there. ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.